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Post by kuremikio on Oct 5, 2009 17:34:19 GMT 8
well, i've just got my pica installed with the open pod last friday. before i go into any details, it can just be summed up by a big wow! of cos its from my personal experience and it may differ from different cars and drivers. below is a list of differences i felt about my pica after the mod: 1) Engine noise: - this definitely became louder as the resonator is removed. it sounds like normal when rpm is between 800 to about 1.8k. only sounds different and louder above 1.8krpm. the sound is rather rugged and bassy, and is exponential as rpm increases. - i asked Joey to rev my pica so that i can hear from outside, it is just slightly louder than normal air intake even at 2.5krpm (not much problem with sound on the outside) - after driving for 2 days, i found that the in-cabin noise had actually helped me control my right foot better due to its better noise feedback. (i can hear if i'm revving too high, like beyond 2.5k, and i will release slightly) 2) Pick-up and response (this is the part i enjoyed most ) : - surprisingly, low end doesn't lose out at all as mentioned by many articles and threads i read up. it increased quite abit instead. I am able to keep up with the traffic with lesser effort. - engaging flyovers is even easier now. - high end performance has improved quite a lot, mainly the 2.2rpm to 3krpm range (i've yet to test out beyond 3krpm, so far no need to exceed that range) i can feel that acceleration from from 60km/h to 100km/h has improved (i believe this is the weakest end for picas) 3) Fuel consumption: - i drive my pica at the 2.2k to 3k range (can't help it, really enjoyed the power ) with about 50% urban 50% highway, i've not pumped up yet but currently it is slightly above the last quarter mark, clocking 300km. it is about the same compared to previous setup but will continue to monitor. overall i can say it is a great mod, compatible or even better than having another QF done up as the distance for air to travel into combustion chamber is greatly reduced and with lesser restrictions and bends, the response had been greatly improved. i no longer feel the hold-back effect that used to occur during high rpm (its like: u dun feel the car accelerating faster although u see the rpm shooting up), which i believe in this case is caused by insufficient air volume that the combustion needs at high rpm. as mentioned by Joey, compared to CAI, although Open Pod takes in warmer air from the engine bay, but in terms of air intake speed and volume, it can easily cover up the lost in warmer and lesser density air. when the car is on the move, it will slowly feel more responsive. the effect is even more at night or rainy days. so far i've not tried to drive with air-con off. thanks for your time to read my long feedback.
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Post by decentboi on Oct 5, 2009 22:24:23 GMT 8
Whats the damage?
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Post by devilcup on Oct 5, 2009 23:41:08 GMT 8
ya how much?
if not ex, we can all do it!
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Post by kuremikio on Oct 6, 2009 10:00:18 GMT 8
its 250 +gst i went harmony just wanting to test out the diff. but like what joey told me about another driver, the person likes it so much and don't wish to switch back the air intake. that's what i felt exactly, after testing 1 round along harmony. some may think that i exaggerated, but u'll feel it after trying out. maybe not as much during test drive, mostly will come during ur day to day driving and overtaking as u wanted to. well... i think joey knows that most ppl will not switch back to their previous air intake after trying out the open pod, so we can try it out for free. (no offense ) but just prepare for the damage if u think u wanna try it out which i believe is the case that we won't want to remove the open pod.
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Post by danielkoh on Oct 7, 2009 8:54:56 GMT 8
Got any peektures of the setup?
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Post by kuremikio on Oct 7, 2009 9:42:41 GMT 8
i try to take some pictures tomorrow as i should be driving to my workplace (before 7am ) then i'll drive into the workshop after working hours to start my washing, vacuuming and waxing. i needed to make space at home for a big chunk of materials that were removed from my engine bay during installation. now the engine bay looks rather empty
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Post by evererin on Oct 8, 2009 10:13:56 GMT 8
pic pic pic =) i wan to see how empty your engine bay now ^^
DIY session boomz liao..
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Post by alson118 on Oct 8, 2009 14:37:04 GMT 8
bro yr ride manual or auto? last time i chec with Joey doing open pod price is more than that lei.. funny..., will check with joey again...
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Post by kuremikio on Oct 9, 2009 11:57:27 GMT 8
pic pic pic =) i wan to see how empty your engine bay now ^^ DIY session boomz liao.. arrgh... i forgotten about it after washing car... spent 3 hours grooming. i will take and post this weekend.
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Post by kuremikio on Oct 9, 2009 11:58:36 GMT 8
bro yr ride manual or auto? last time i chec with Joey doing open pod price is more than that lei.. funny..., will check with joey again... mine's AT pica. if ur ride is higher cc, maybe the open pod size is different, resulting in higher cost.
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Post by accom06 on Oct 19, 2009 19:21:04 GMT 8
wow! impressive! the best i got so far is 11km/l 1.4AT Rio too.. what magic did you do sia... I already consider myself to be really light foot liao.. Hi everyone, time flies and it has been 2 mths since i did my ECU tuning! No other poison yet, and I am happy to inform all there that my ride still feels responsive and I am enjoying it more! As for FC, I just recorded my highest ever FC since QF of ard 15km/L. 80% highway, 20% city for 1.4L(AT) Rio. Max speed of 110kmh @ 2.5k revs.
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Post by danielkoh on Oct 19, 2009 21:19:26 GMT 8
Bro accom06, maybe i really really light footed? Haha..
Anyway that FC of 15km/l was achieved in general smooth traffic; I spend most of my time on expressways so I think it helps.
These couple of weeks have been going to office earlier and fighting through the PIE jam every morning. Still I am getting 12 - 13 km/l.
Mods so far: ECU tuning, Strut Bar, PMax and 8 pt grounding =)
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Post by accom06 on Oct 20, 2009 0:38:41 GMT 8
Wow... 12-13km/l..i can only wish for that.. . I am doing 70/30 HW/City and still it is just < 11km/l. is ECU tuning ex?? i must definitely look at getting a strutbar under my bonnet and 8pt grounding... whats PMax? sorry for all the qns.. i apologise... Bro accom06, maybe i really really light footed? Haha.. Anyway that FC of 15km/l was achieved in general smooth traffic; I spend most of my time on expressways so I think it helps. These couple of weeks have been going to office earlier and fighting through the PIE jam every morning. Still I am getting 12 - 13 km/l. Mods so far: ECU tuning, Strut Bar, PMax and 8 pt grounding =)
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 20, 2009 11:31:41 GMT 8
Pmax is some sort of voltage stabiliser.. It gives you more torque, better efficiency in aircon and headlights.. ECU also tends to respond faster.. eg, shifting down when going up a slope..
It work best when coupled together with grounding as they are both electrical components..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 20, 2009 11:34:09 GMT 8
Wah.. Rio can really save petrol.. My AT pica max FC is 14+km/ltr.. Normal is around 13km/ltr.. Maybe next time I travel at 80km/hr on expressway for one week and see if I can get any different results.. But it's hard.. It's morning jam on expressway everyday without fail.. Bro accom06, maybe i really really light footed? Haha.. Anyway that FC of 15km/l was achieved in general smooth traffic; I spend most of my time on expressways so I think it helps. These couple of weeks have been going to office earlier and fighting through the PIE jam every morning. Still I am getting 12 - 13 km/l. Mods so far: ECU tuning, Strut Bar, PMax and 8 pt grounding =)
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 26, 2009 15:30:24 GMT 8
Hi all, just to post some updates on the open pod which I have done on sat.. It's the same thing as Kuremikio.. This is old setup: CAI w/ stainless steel filter New Setup Open pod with Hurricane SS cone filter.. Summary: Basically, there are differences in both of these systems.. Basically, I shall group them into Performance, Hear and Feel.. Performance: There is no lag in the lower end, which I take it as <2.5rpm.. In fact, there is a an improvement in the lower end.. Overall, I should say that there is an overall improvement in all the ranges.. Pickup is faster and there is more power in the higher speeds 80km/hr to 110km/hr.. Hear: Engine sound definitely changed.. I don't know how to describe it, but it's fantastic, esp when you are revving above 2.5rpm.. You can also hear the suction of the cone intake.. Feel: My pica felt different after the change in intake.. I have not rev past 3rpm till now.. My Opinion: I feel that this is a value of money mod. For $250, you get performance improvement, great engine sound and satisfaction.. But do take note that most of the improvement comes at higher speeds.. The open pod is able to supply sufficient amounts of air that the engine requires at higher speeds. Great engine sound and air intake note.. Great service.. I asked to drive another round around Harmony as I'm not very sure whether I should buy it.. The technician readily agree and explained to me what the open pod does in detail.. He makes sure I understand what I'm doing..
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Post by danielkoh on Oct 26, 2009 18:04:52 GMT 8
Cool! So ur observations were in comparison against ur previous CAI setup?
So if pple without CAI in the first place the effect will be more o_0
Do they have it for Rio? *Hopeful*
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 27, 2009 8:28:47 GMT 8
Hmm.. I think they should have it.. CAI's effect will be more during night driving where cold air is present at lower heights.. You can go to harmony and try.. When I approached Joey, I told him I would like to try it first.. He provided me with brand new filter and fittings, even though there's always a chance that I may not buy it after testing.. My observations are in comparison with my CAI setup.. Regarding my FC, it dropped slightly this tank.. However, this tank should not be counted as it's the first tank.. I think the FC should be close to the previous CAI setup when I go into "fuel saving" mode after this tank..
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Post by devilcup on Oct 27, 2009 16:20:34 GMT 8
really tempted!
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Post by MK1 on Oct 28, 2009 7:30:02 GMT 8
me tempted also... haha~~ $250 leh... hai... the price without CAI right?
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 28, 2009 7:58:59 GMT 8
Not including CAI .. It includes a Hurricane SS open pod filter and fittings.. I have not taken out my CAI piping yet.. I placed it close to my filter..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 28, 2009 8:03:51 GMT 8
First tank FC is 12.60km/ltr for my AT pica.. A drop from my usual 14km/ltr.. Now go into "fuel saving" mode.. I should be able to get 13+km/ltr for the next tank.. Will update you guys again..
Just like what Kuremikio has mentioned, the first tank usually has lower FC because the owner would be trying to see what are the effects after addition of the items..
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Post by danielkoh on Oct 28, 2009 9:46:54 GMT 8
Not including CAI .. It includes a Hurricane SS open pod filter and fittings.. I have not taken out my CAI piping yet.. I placed it close to my filter.. Sorry noob qn, but means can do CAI with open pod? *Boomz*
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Post by evererin on Oct 28, 2009 10:50:40 GMT 8
open pod can do CAI too =) after so many mths, glad tat u guys still modding sia.. =) but nvr get to see u guys -__-"
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 28, 2009 11:29:45 GMT 8
I think you need a shield to do so.. Coz by just placing the CAI pipe close to the open pod, the suction won't be that much.. Unless there's a shield to block the flow of the air towards the open pod, forcing the air from CAI to be sucked into the engine instead.. But I don't know whether my theory is true or not..
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