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Post by picanyeo on Oct 21, 2010 9:31:37 GMT 8
If you intend to change your EO, use 5W40 oil.. I once used 5W50 and engine was very sluggish.. The mechanic overfilled to 4L somemore.. Our pica oil capacity only 3L.. So this are minor issues but may cause sluggishness too.. As you have just taken over your pica, I suggest that you get a reliable ws to do a full servicing and check the conditions of timing belts etc.. Engine oil and atf recommended to change if you do not have the service history.. These 2 items are the 'blood' of the engine.. Also check brake pads, better to change brake fluid too.. Check battery condition.. You don't wanna get a dead battery in the middle of the night.. A pica may be a small car.. But the cost of ownership is nearly the same as 1.6L.. The EO required is different, but charges are the same..
If got budget constrain, I suggest you pull out the dipstick and examine the condition of the oil and ATF.. If EO is dark and dirty, change.. If ATF is brownish, change too..
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Post by Elvin on Oct 21, 2010 9:40:20 GMT 8
hmm this thread is getting hot...
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Post by kb27 on Oct 21, 2010 11:57:29 GMT 8
If you intend to change your EO, use 5W40 oil.. I once used 5W50 and engine was very sluggish.. The mechanic overfilled to 4L somemore.. Our pica oil capacity only 3L.. So this are minor issues but may cause sluggishness too.. As you have just taken over your pica, I suggest that you get a reliable ws to do a full servicing and check the conditions of timing belts etc.. Engine oil and atf recommended to change if you do not have the service history.. These 2 items are the 'blood' of the engine.. Also check brake pads, better to change brake fluid too.. Check battery condition.. You don't wanna get a dead battery in the middle of the night.. A pica may be a small car.. But the cost of ownership is nearly the same as 1.6L.. The EO required is different, but charges are the same.. If got budget constrain, I suggest you pull out the dipstick and examine the condition of the oil and ATF.. If EO is dark and dirty, change.. If ATF is brownish, change too.. Actually, you should try 5w30 for better fc
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Post by DGray on Oct 21, 2010 12:16:27 GMT 8
If you intend to change your EO, use 5W40 oil.. I once used 5W50 and engine was very sluggish.. The mechanic overfilled to 4L somemore.. Our pica oil capacity only 3L.. So this are minor issues but may cause sluggishness too.. As you have just taken over your pica, I suggest that you get a reliable ws to do a full servicing and check the conditions of timing belts etc.. Engine oil and atf recommended to change if you do not have the service history.. These 2 items are the 'blood' of the engine.. Also check brake pads, better to change brake fluid too.. Check battery condition.. You don't wanna get a dead battery in the middle of the night.. A pica may be a small car.. But the cost of ownership is nearly the same as 1.6L.. The EO required is different, but charges are the same.. If got budget constrain, I suggest you pull out the dipstick and examine the condition of the oil and ATF.. If EO is dark and dirty, change.. If ATF is brownish, change too.. Actuali overfilling can also cause engine damage as if we underfill.
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 21, 2010 12:43:21 GMT 8
hmm.... maybe i will head down to autobacs and see what are the items i can get it myself, then just pay for the labour charges..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 21, 2010 13:11:50 GMT 8
If you intend to change your EO, use 5W40 oil.. I once used 5W50 and engine was very sluggish.. The mechanic overfilled to 4L somemore.. Our pica oil capacity only 3L.. So this are minor issues but may cause sluggishness too.. As you have just taken over your pica, I suggest that you get a reliable ws to do a full servicing and check the conditions of timing belts etc.. Engine oil and atf recommended to change if you do not have the service history.. These 2 items are the 'blood' of the engine.. Also check brake pads, better to change brake fluid too.. Check battery condition.. You don't wanna get a dead battery in the middle of the night.. A pica may be a small car.. But the cost of ownership is nearly the same as 1.6L.. The EO required is different, but charges are the same.. If got budget constrain, I suggest you pull out the dipstick and examine the condition of the oil and ATF.. If EO is dark and dirty, change.. If ATF is brownish, change too.. Actuali overfilling can also cause engine damage as if we underfill. Ya.. Luckily bro whitesnail checked the EO level when I complained the car seems sluggish after servicing.. So his remedy is to change to 5W40 oil (I was using 5W50) and drain out excess EO.. It works! Car regained power and perform at the level it should..
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 21, 2010 13:50:12 GMT 8
Actuali overfilling can also cause engine damage as if we underfill. Ya.. Luckily bro whitesnail checked the EO level when I complained the car seems sluggish after servicing.. So his remedy is to change to 5W40 oil (I was using 5W50) and drain out excess EO.. It works! Car regained power and perform at the level it should.. where did u went for servicing?
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 21, 2010 14:32:48 GMT 8
Quite a major workshop I would say.. Better for me not to say the name out..
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Post by Elvin on Oct 21, 2010 14:41:10 GMT 8
Haha I tink I know where but better for me not to say out too :x
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Post by Full Metal Alchemist on Oct 21, 2010 18:01:04 GMT 8
For my Auto Pica previously, I got only 280-300KM for a full tank of gas..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 21, 2010 21:27:02 GMT 8
ThAt's about 10km/ltr?
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 21, 2010 23:25:23 GMT 8
For my Auto Pica previously, I got only 280-300KM for a full tank of gas.. thats about the same as me!! OT a little: i really hate it when some other impatient drivers who like to tailgate me closely then high beam at me, when i'm already travelling at 100kmh!
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Post by theredstar on Oct 22, 2010 1:26:32 GMT 8
Hmm.. Just to share.. A few months back, I did a test to acquire some data on how acceleration affects the FC.. I tried one with heavy foot, the other with ultra light foot.. Ultra light meaning that it's feather light.. Very, very slow acceleration and had to keep to left lane to avoid being high beamed by frustrated drivers behind.. Each test runs for one week.. So after 2 weeks, I compared the figures.. There is a difference, but the difference is only 1km/ltr.. That means being feather-light, I gained only 1km per ltr of petrol burned.. This is not worth it IMO.. The consequence that I suffered is that when I try to resume back to normal driving style after the ultra light test, I find that my pica feels slow to respond due to the driving pattern.. Have to reset ECU.. Therefore, after the test, I continue the way I drive usually.. No need to be ultra light.. I did this experiment too and my FC dropped vvv badly did not really recover since leh how long for ECU to relearn? or die die mst reset? sianz
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 22, 2010 8:24:55 GMT 8
For my Auto Pica previously, I got only 280-300KM for a full tank of gas.. thats about the same as me!! OT a little: i really hate it when some other impatient drivers who like to tailgate me closely then high beam at me, when i'm already travelling at 100kmh! Hmm.. Did you travel in the first lane? According to my observation, there are speed indicators that tells u your speed when you exit slips roads from expressway.. For example, there's one such indicator at the exit from SLE towards lentor ave.. From what I observe, when the indicator reads 50km/hr, mine speedo is about 58, nearly 60km/hr.. At this difference is presented consistently no matter whether I travel at 50 or 60km/hr.. Therefore, the point that I'm trying to make is that although your speedo reads 100km/hr, actual speed is lesser than that.. Those sedans travel at the actual 100km/hr.. Naturally they will be able to close in on you.. Pls note that I'm just saying my opinion.. Not trying to pinpoint or something.. Hope u don't mind..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 22, 2010 8:32:09 GMT 8
Hmm.. Just to share.. A few months back, I did a test to acquire some data on how acceleration affects the FC.. I tried one with heavy foot, the other with ultra light foot.. Ultra light meaning that it's feather light.. Very, very slow acceleration and had to keep to left lane to avoid being high beamed by frustrated drivers behind.. Each test runs for one week.. So after 2 weeks, I compared the figures.. There is a difference, but the difference is only 1km/ltr.. That means being feather-light, I gained only 1km per ltr of petrol burned.. This is not worth it IMO.. The consequence that I suffered is that when I try to resume back to normal driving style after the ultra light test, I find that my pica feels slow to respond due to the driving pattern.. Have to reset ECU.. Therefore, after the test, I continue the way I drive usually.. No need to be ultra light.. I did this experiment too and my FC dropped vvv badly did not really recover since leh how long for ECU to relearn? or die die mst reset? sianz The learning part of the ecu (not the mapping) is adaptive.. Which means it never rmb its previous settings will only adapt to the feedback given by its sensor.. It's not that computer where you can save and then open again from its folder.. Therefore, you can never guarantee that you will get back the same settings as before the experiment.. The learning process is slow and a full tank should be enough for it to stabilise.. I feel that if the ecu cannot retrieve the previous setting before the experiment, it's best to do a reset and start all over again.. There are 2 methods of resetting ecu as mentioned above.. Note that if you have a VS, it's best to use the battery method.. Just taking out the fuses may not reset the ecu because of the capacitor in the VS.. I did it but I'm not entirely convinced that it is reset.. The only time when I feel that the ecu is completely reset is when my battery goes flat.. the power is completely disconnected..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 23, 2010 13:41:22 GMT 8
Just calculated my fc for the previous pump.. 12.36km/ltr.. I always heard auto pica is 12 - 14km/ltr.. But I've never achieve 14 before.. The highest I got was 13.39km/ltr..
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 23, 2010 16:53:40 GMT 8
i just calculated my estimated FC for half tank, its abut 11.5km/l. looks like it is improving but i'll still need to monitor it for a few rounds to make sure it is right.
on a side note, i've just went to Autobacs but I cant find Amsoil engine oil, anyone can advise? But I can find K&N air filter, i will be getting it when i'm bringing it for servicing. how is castrol 5W40 engine oil? saw their promotion for $98/
do i need to do an engine flush before filling in with the new engine oil?
as for spark plugs, ATF, coolant and oil filter u guys got any recommendations?
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Post by Khoo's Pica 110 on Oct 23, 2010 17:06:18 GMT 8
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 23, 2010 17:15:11 GMT 8
thanks khoo!
i was thinking of getting the engine oil, ATF, air filter and oil filter changed. not very sure about the rest, probably doing a change on the coolant as well.
but is it compulsory to do a flush when changing these fluids?
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 23, 2010 17:55:18 GMT 8
I think for engine oil, mostly do drain and fill and they comes with oil filter as well.. For ATF, I did a drain and fill.. Thinking of doing a flush next time.. Flush or not will depend on you.. But got to pay more..
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 23, 2010 18:02:15 GMT 8
I think for engine oil, mostly do drain and fill and they comes with oil filter as well.. For ATF, I did a drain and fill.. Thinking of doing a flush next time.. Flush or not will depend on you.. But got to pay more.. thanks! but when i went to look at the engine oil section, they do not have the oil filter attached to it leh..
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 23, 2010 18:54:25 GMT 8
Hmm.. Perhaps you may want to browse through major workshop servicing packages.. Normally, the lowest price would include engine oil, oil filter, drain oil plug and checking of some basic items..
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Post by darthtigger on Oct 23, 2010 19:11:49 GMT 8
hmmm... i was thinking of shell too..
but anyway, what do u think of shell's helix or castrol engine oil?
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Post by aloysiusliew on Oct 23, 2010 22:10:17 GMT 8
Both EO are good oil. As for this $98 promotion for normal servicing, you saw it from sgcarmart? If yes, what I know they order in barrel and transfer to the 4L bottle.
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Post by aloysiusliew on Oct 23, 2010 22:19:22 GMT 8
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