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Post by CS34G93 on Jan 8, 2011 12:23:30 GMT 8
Was browsing through this month issue of REV and this is the finding I've got from this REV. Short extract here and there from an interview with OWS founder, Mr. Klaus Bosshammer:
So what exactly is that we should know about Engine Oil? The first thing you should know is that all engine oils share the same characteristics. All oils have to follow the API (American Petroleum Index) standard. The difference between the various oils are the viscosity and the additives added.
For example, 5W-30 is a relatively slick engine oil that isn't suited for the temperatures here as its viscosity is fairly low, and burns up instead of lubricating your engine. When that happens, you end up with metal and metal, with essentially no protection for your engine.
You might see some fuel saving but your engine is going to be in trouble.
What would you recommend for cars here in Singapore? In Singapore, because of the humidity and the tropical temperatures, the bare minimum you have to use is at least a 5W-40 for your standard Japanese/ Korean cars and for European makes like BMW, Volkswagen and Mercedes, at least a 5W-50.
Disclaimer: This is a short extraction in the copy, REV. Not for any advertising purpose. Courtesy by REV. I'm not of any affiliation with REV.
PS: REV monthly issue can be obtain from these below Participating Outlets:
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Post by picanyeo on Jan 8, 2011 15:46:07 GMT 8
Then isn;t 5W50 better because it's thicker in viscocity?
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Post by CS34G93 on Jan 8, 2011 16:08:13 GMT 8
Then isn;t 5W50 better because it's thicker in viscocity? Unless you wanna TC your ride?? 5W40 will be good enough
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Post by Rick on Jan 8, 2011 17:58:15 GMT 8
does it mean if i'm driving at a 5-10 degree enviroment, eg australia, my engine temp will be running @ 20-50 degree and thus can use 5w-30?
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Post by CS34G93 on Jan 8, 2011 18:41:37 GMT 8
does it mean if i'm driving at a 5-10 degree enviroment, eg australia, my engine temp will be running @ 20-50 degree and thus can use 5w-30? In anyway should be bro, not sure about other countries thou but relatively we should be using 5W40 in our type of weather and humidity.
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Post by aloysiusliew on Jan 8, 2011 18:44:08 GMT 8
5w30 won't burn up so easily even in SG condition. Unless you are using your car to do delivery, driving the whole day. After some time the oil will dry up a little. My oil also did not drop when drove back from Malacca.
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Post by CS34G93 on Jan 8, 2011 20:50:43 GMT 8
5w30 won't burn up so easily even in SG condition. Unless you are using your car to do delivery, driving the whole day. After some time the oil will dry up a little. My oil also did not drop when drove back from Malacca. Well, better be safe than sorry bro. Prevention is better than cure. Anyway its up to individual bro, just don't say no one ever mention this before if anything were to happen to the engine. . Anyway, I'm sticking to 5W40 since I'm having a high revving engine
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Post by Harmony Motor on Jan 9, 2011 12:56:23 GMT 8
I am an advocate for 5W/40 for our hot and humid climate. Too thin an oil will unavoidable to have more metal to metal contact and thus high wear. You may experience lighter engine as the oil resistance is lower but if you listen to you engine about a month later, you will notice that it is louder. Bear in mind, wear and tear hase no cure except replacement.
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Post by devilcup on Jan 9, 2011 13:09:55 GMT 8
i think i dun see members in here, esp this section discuss about EO getting thinner after running in your car... if you notice well, after you service your car, ur car dun really feel as easy to move off as compare to before servicing. but after ard 500-1k km, you will feel ur car is more smooth. this show that your EO get thinner the more you run it. correct me if i am wrong.
Anyway, i always use 5W40, from Shell, toyota Orig EO, amsoil and redline. so far Shell is the thickest, i find toyota 5W40 is similar to redline and amsoil feel the most thinner of all 5w40. neber go lower than this.
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Post by CS34G93 on Jan 9, 2011 13:47:50 GMT 8
Bro aloysiusliew, see what our dear Joey have said from a Singaporean point of view? Its time for you to try out the 5W40 before you be seeing Joey soon bro. Try Shell Helix or Redline And its not about dropping in oil level but oil becomes more thinner and thus wear and tear higher. Remember, wear and tear has no cure except replacement as what Joey said.
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Post by nakshire on Jan 9, 2011 14:10:24 GMT 8
I am an advocate for 5W/40 for our hot and humid climate. Too thin an oil will unavoidable to have more metal to metal contact and thus high wear. You may experience lighter engine as the oil resistance is lower but if you listen to you engine about a month later, you will notice that it is louder. Bear in mind, wear and tear hase no cure except replacement. ' for new rides like me, i'm using Amsoil SSO w30, said to be very good. so what do u think of it?
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Post by picanyeo on Jan 9, 2011 14:20:36 GMT 8
Hmm.. I feel that with repeated heating and cooling, the oil's viscocity Properties will change.. In fact, all oil will get thinner after all the heating andcooling.. That's why we nd to change oil after 10,000km.. If not, we can use the oil for a long time..
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Post by aloysiusliew on Jan 9, 2011 16:35:00 GMT 8
Bro aloysiusliew, see what our dear Joey have said from a Singaporean point of view? Its time for you to try out the 5W40 before you be seeing Joey soon bro. Try Shell Helix or Redline And its not about dropping in oil level but oil becomes more thinner and thus wear and tear higher. Remember, wear and tear has no cure except replacement as what Joey said. I used 5w40 b4 and I know the protection is better. Engine is much quite than using 5w30. Why I choose 5w30 is because I dun wrack the engine More smoother engine I replace EO every 5 mths Better mileage I have share with one of the bro in this forum a few month ago that after my pica mileage is after 50k km, than will switch to 5w40. Now mileage is 52K liao, next servicing will than switch to 5w40.
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Post by CS34G93 on Jan 9, 2011 17:14:26 GMT 8
Bro aloysiusliew, see what our dear Joey have said from a Singaporean point of view? Its time for you to try out the 5W40 before you be seeing Joey soon bro. Try Shell Helix or Redline And its not about dropping in oil level but oil becomes more thinner and thus wear and tear higher. Remember, wear and tear has no cure except replacement as what Joey said. I used 5w40 b4 and I know the protection is better. Engine is much quite than using 5w30. Why I choose 5w30 is because I dun wrack the engine More smoother engine I replace EO every 5 mths Better mileage I have share with one of the bro in this forum a few month ago that after my pica mileage is after 50k km, than will switch to 5w40. Now mileage is 52K liao, next servicing will than switch to 5w40. Ya bro, thumbs up for that decision. No matter we whack or don't whack, we must always have the best protection for our engines, coz they are the power plant that we got to rely on for getting us from point A to point B problem free.
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Post by picanyeo on Jan 9, 2011 19:47:07 GMT 8
Good conclusion by black913.. Engine oil is something that you should not save.. Another is ATF..
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Post by sky8807 on Jan 9, 2011 20:42:28 GMT 8
I have used 5W-30 and 5W-40. As far as engine wear and tear concerned no issue. Most important is the viscosity index stability. In fact engine wear is highest during initial startup where oil have to flow to lub the engine. Thicker oil take longer or slower to reach the moving part thus the metal to metal wear is greatest. When the engine have reach its operating temperature most oil would have been thin out like water, so hot engine no issue. The main purpose of engine is to lubricate all the moving parts, remove the heat back to engine sump and also contaminent frorm the combustion process. Today engine technology where tolerence and clearance are so small a thinner oil become an advantage. If using a thin oil and level drop then the engine is not suitable for the thin oil otherwise it's OK.
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Post by Little Red Riding Hood #828 on Jan 9, 2011 21:26:27 GMT 8
Have to agree with bro Black913 Was browsing through this month issue of REV and this is the finding I've got from this REV. Short extract here and there from an interview with OWS founder, Mr. Klaus Bosshammer: So what exactly is that we should know about Engine Oil?The first thing you should know is that all engine oils share the same characteristics. All oils have to follow the API (American Petroleum Index) standard. The difference between the various oils are the viscosity and the additives added. For example, 5W-30 is a relatively slick engine oil that isn't suited for the temperatures here as its viscosity is fairly low, and burns up instead of lubricating your engine. When that happens, you end up with metal and metal, with essentially no protection for your engine. You might see some fuel saving but your engine is going to be in trouble. What would you recommend for cars here in Singapore?In Singapore, because of the humidity and the tropical temperatures, the bare minimum you have to use is at least a 5W-40 for your standard Japanese/ Korean cars and for European makes like BMW, Volkswagen and Mercedes, at least a 5W-50. Disclaimer: This is a short extraction in the copy, REV. Not for any advertising purpose. Courtesy by REV. I'm not of any affiliation with REV. PS: REV monthly issue can be obtain from these below Participating Outlets: ADK Auto Accessories Center AutoBacs Venture Pte Ltd AutoVox Pte Ltd Chuan Lee Hin Tyres Trading Concorde Auto Accessories (S) Pte Ltd Fabulous-X Pte Ltd Horizon Auto Enterprise Pte Ltd Jeep Chee Trading Pte Ltd Mcwell Ventures Pte Ltd Miracle Bodyworkz Motec Auto Accessories MotoRex Performance Pte Ltd Revol Carz Makerover RTES and most of the Stamford Tyres Megamart
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Post by sky8807 on Jan 9, 2011 22:11:42 GMT 8
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Post by sgbuyer on Jan 9, 2011 23:55:24 GMT 8
been using 5w-40 since the first oil change...
going to change to 5w-50 on my 100k /km
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Post by devilcup on Jan 10, 2011 12:22:09 GMT 8
been using 5w-40 since the first oil change... going to change to 5w-50 on my 100k /km 5w40 should be ok on 100k km picanto. 5w50 will be very heavy for picanto.
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Post by xiaohei on Jan 13, 2011 1:33:53 GMT 8
me still using 5w40 at 120k mileage...hehe...shld be ok all the way hor
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Post by picanyeo on Jan 13, 2011 8:45:21 GMT 8
Hmm.. Is there any theory whereby higher mileage cars are recommended to use 5W50 oil? More for protecting the engine since the oil is thicker..
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Post by Koch on Jan 13, 2011 12:30:19 GMT 8
heard b4 but not sure.... anyone know?
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Post by dllatimer on Jan 13, 2011 13:08:06 GMT 8
5w40 will be enough 5w50 too thick and not so revy...
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Post by Elvin on Jan 13, 2011 15:42:15 GMT 8
i wonder when you send back your ride to c&c for servicing, do they use 5w40 oil? I know they are using Shell Helix Ultra...
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