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Post by picanyeo on Jan 13, 2011 16:09:21 GMT 8
Yes.. Their oil is 5W40..
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Post by BlackBird on Jan 14, 2011 14:17:10 GMT 8
actually, 5w40 is abit thick, i tried once. sluggish moveoff
follow manual shd be fine. 10W30,5W30 to me is fine after 6 yrs of picanto
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Post by Harmony Motor on Jan 14, 2011 23:05:17 GMT 8
actually, 5w40 is abit thick, i tried once. sluggish moveoff follow manual shd be fine. 10W30,5W30 to me is fine after 6 yrs of picanto Check which climate temp is stated in your owner manual for 5W/30
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Post by picanyeo on Jan 14, 2011 23:46:37 GMT 8
I checked the owner's manual and found that all grades of oil can be used.. It says higher viscosity oil are required for satisfactory lubrication in hot weather, which I assume the manual is refering to us.
In the manual, at a temperature of 30 degrees, 20W50, 15W40 and 10W30 all can be used. But I'm confused between the first statement of using higher viscosity oil in hot weather and the whole range of grades of oil that can be used..
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Post by sgbuyer on Jan 15, 2011 0:45:55 GMT 8
Singapore cannot follow temperature of 30deg... our daily temperature exceed 30deg
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Post by devilcup on Jan 15, 2011 1:08:24 GMT 8
i not sure how 5w30 oil runs on our engine, i can only comment on amsoil 5w40 which is much thinner to redline, shell and even toyota EO. how i noe it thinner, there are always left over of the EO after servicing, we need only 2.5 - 2.8 litre of EO. i always take a look on the left over for the oil and shake it. amsoil is the most easy to shake as compare...
Also, when i run amsoil in my engine, my engine roars louder, others is softer and sound smoother. i only can base on this encounter to deduce that thinner oil = loud engine and rough engine which is to me less protection.
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Post by picanyeo on Jan 15, 2011 8:54:45 GMT 8
But the advantages of thinner oil is that it gives better fc.. But I agree that protection of the engine comes first.. ESP when you need lubrication for the engine in high temperatures..
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Post by aloysiusliew on Jan 15, 2011 17:04:46 GMT 8
Tried semi synthetic 10w30 b4 and quite impress too. Although interval oil change for semi oil is 7500km, my EO change every 5 month also never reach 6500km mileage.
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Post by sky8807 on Jan 15, 2011 21:21:14 GMT 8
I had used both 5W-30 and 5W-40. As far as engine running is concerned, no worries. However, there is a "feeling' that the engine sound a little louder on the thinner oil. As for continuous running at above 100km/hr for 4-5 hrs, no issue(tested in Boleh land). Also tried on different car. Way back in 1999 already used it on my Elantra driving to Penang with max speed of 170km/hr. When I replaced the oil during oil change, the mechanic was shock that it drain out like 'water'.
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Post by kb27 on Jan 16, 2011 0:07:10 GMT 8
I have been using 5w30, sometimes 5w20 on my Getz for 6 yrs+. If the oil is not good enough, the engine would have been in serious trouble long time ago.
Read up more before jumping on the "scared" bandwagon.
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Post by Harmony Motor on Jan 17, 2011 15:08:09 GMT 8
I have been using 5w30, sometimes 5w20 on my Getz for 6 yrs+. If the oil is not good enough, the engine would have been in serious trouble long time ago. Read up more before jumping on the "scared" bandwagon. Your car should be a good test example if it is still around. Simply just place 2 cars side by side (the other regularly using 5W/40). Just listen to the 2 engines and you will understand. 1 will be quieter then the other.
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Post by sky8807 on Jan 18, 2011 17:50:19 GMT 8
What is important in lubrication is the internal bearings and very small clearances for a thin film of oil to reach and protect the metal. Thus it is not that thicker oil is better. If the parts are already worn, engine noise will be louder, to compensate the noise and bigger clearance between parts a thicker oil would be better. However, if the parts are not worn out and still good using a thinner oil will not make the engine louder than thicker oil. Those whose engine are noisy, do note that thicker oil is not better but suppressed the noisy engine a little bit. If engine is in good condition not much different in noise.
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Post by aloysiusliew on Jan 18, 2011 22:27:19 GMT 8
I have been using 5w30, sometimes 5w20 on my Getz for 6 yrs+. If the oil is not good enough, the engine would have been in serious trouble long time ago. Read up more before jumping on the "scared" bandwagon. Your car should be a good test example if it is still around. Simply just place 2 cars side by side (the other regularly using 5W/40). Just listen to the 2 engines and you will understand. 1 will be quieter then the other. Today went to pump tire. not really noise when stood beside . I am using w30 which just service about a month ago. Compare with my company car which just service at a week ago using w40. noise not much different.... really My ride is KIA 4yrs and my company is TOYOTA 1.5yrs
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Post by devilcup on Jan 19, 2011 10:30:45 GMT 8
noisy between 5w30 and 5w40 has some different. but the difference may not be much. like sky said, it the engine is well protected, on schedule on servicing. i think a good brand 5w30 oil should do the job. imho, it is depending on which EO you use. Redline EO is thicker as compare to Amsoil, in my case 5w40. i believe RL 5w30 is abit thicker than Amsoil 5W30, just my guess.
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Post by devilcup on Jan 19, 2011 10:34:18 GMT 8
I had used both 5W-30 and 5W-40. As far as engine running is concerned, no worries. However, there is a "feeling' that the engine sound a little louder on the thinner oil. As for continuous running at above 100km/hr for 4-5 hrs, no issue(tested in Boleh land). Also tried on different car. Way back in 1999 already used it on my Elantra driving to Penang with max speed of 170km/hr. When I replaced the oil during oil change, the mechanic was shock that it drain out like 'water'. this is wat i meant on sheering/wearing down. if those who notice, after running ard 100km after service, your engine will be much smoother as compare just over oil change. by the engine of 10k km, you noe that ur engine is more rough. using 5w30 is ok but after it sheer that another story
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Post by kb27 on Jan 27, 2011 11:35:15 GMT 8
Was browsing through this month issue of REV and this is the finding I've got from this REV. Short extract here and there from an interview with OWS founder, Mr. Klaus Bosshammer: So what exactly is that we should know about Engine Oil?The first thing you should know is that all engine oils share the same characteristics. All oils have to follow the API (American Petroleum Index) standard. The difference between the various oils are the viscosity and the additives added. For example, 5W-30 is a relatively slick engine oil that isn't suited for the temperatures here as its viscosity is fairly low, and burns up instead of lubricating your engine. When that happens, you end up with metal and metal, with essentially no protection for your engine. Mr Bosshammer obviously haven't heard about a measurement called NOACK. 5w30 doesn't burn up any more easily than 5w40. It depends entirely on the quality of the oil. For the founder to make such a statement, OWS is definitely NOT a oil I would want to use. Anyway I have already bad experience with OWS iridium plugs. For those who wants to hear juicy story, you can chat with Song Yi if you dropped by to pick up your parts. As for shearing down, 5w20 shear down must lesser than a 5w40. Traditionally, US are stuck with 5w30 oil, Europeans are stuck with 5w40 oil and Asia is stuck with 5w50 oil. If you read up in BITOG, you would have read stories of 5w20 oil being used for eons in US. If it was that bad, there would be countless stories of engines breaking down left and right. Oil companies would have been sued to bankrupty long time ago, knowing US litigation society. Why the difference in grade due to locations? That's a long story. Car engines are more or less the same. They are exported worldwide. Your Kia engine is built in Korea in relatively cold climate. Did they acclimatized it to suit tropical country? Probably not. Ambient temp differs, but US and Europe also suffer tremendous heat in summer. Do they changed oil comes every summer ? NO !! For those who are afraid of the unknown, always use the thickest oil is the mentality.
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Post by tutuchia on Jan 27, 2011 12:07:54 GMT 8
Was browsing through this month issue of REV and this is the finding I've got from this REV. Short extract here and there from an interview with OWS founder, Mr. Klaus Bosshammer: So what exactly is that we should know about Engine Oil?The first thing you should know is that all engine oils share the same characteristics. All oils have to follow the API (American Petroleum Index) standard. The difference between the various oils are the viscosity and the additives added. For example, 5W-30 is a relatively slick engine oil that isn't suited for the temperatures here as its viscosity is fairly low, and burns up instead of lubricating your engine. When that happens, you end up with metal and metal, with essentially no protection for your engine. Mr Bosshammer obviously haven't heard about a measurement called NOACK. 5w30 doesn't burn up any more easily than 5w40. It depends entirely on the quality of the oil. For the founder to make such a statement, OWS is definitely NOT a oil I would want to use. Anyway I have already bad experience with OWS iridium plugs. For those who wants to hear juicy story, you can chat with Song Yi if you dropped by to pick up your parts. As for shearing down, 5w20 shear down must lesser than a 5w40. Traditionally, US are stuck with 5w30 oil, Europeans are stuck with 5w40 oil and Asia is stuck with 5w50 oil. If you read up in BITOG, you would have read stories of 5w20 oil being used for eons in US. If it was that bad, there would be countless stories of engines breaking down left and right. Oil companies would have been sued to bankrupty long time ago, knowing US litigation society. Why the difference in grade due to locations? That's a long story. Car engines are more or less the same. They are exported worldwide. Your Kia engine is built in Korea in relatively cold climate. Did they acclimatized it to suit tropical country? Probably not. Ambient temp differs, but US and Europe also suffer tremendous heat in summer. Do they changed oil comes every summer ? NO !! For those who are afraid of the unknown, always use the thickest oil is the mentality. tq for the info bro, i learnt something! muacks
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Post by Elvin on Jan 27, 2011 12:20:04 GMT 8
so.. the conclusion is? 30? 40?
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Post by tutuchia on Jan 27, 2011 12:21:43 GMT 8
play safe 50 lor lol
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Post by Elvin on Jan 27, 2011 12:25:32 GMT 8
hmm.. remind me of: if wan to be safe, wear the thickest helmet available ...
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Post by kb27 on Jan 27, 2011 13:01:13 GMT 8
By the same token, most workshops here are kiasu, kiasi. Go to any workshop and they tend to overtighten your wheel nut. Why? If not, it will "fall off". They obviously don't care to use a torque wrench or dunno what it is. So the tighter, the better.
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Post by kb27 on Jan 27, 2011 13:13:04 GMT 8
I drove a Kia Optima in sunny San Diego in US. The oil cap states 5w20.
If the same Kia, built in Korea, is sold in SG, C&C will probably tell you to use Shell 10w40, bcoz that's what they have in bulk oil.
If you question about the apparent difference in grade, the first answer to come out is invariably, "it is hotter here".
But of coz they don't know US has sweltering summer as well.
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Post by devilcup on Jan 27, 2011 13:57:22 GMT 8
in US the lower grade EO is use is due to the regulation in US. dun noe if it is true
but for good protection, i think the thicker the better.
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Post by aloysiusliew on Jan 27, 2011 13:59:57 GMT 8
so.. the conclusion is? 30? 40? Both are suitable but still up to individual, and dun save $$$ on cheapo EO. I tried before and engine is very noisy.
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Post by aloysiusliew on Jan 27, 2011 14:01:03 GMT 8
By the same token, most workshops here are kiasu, kiasi. Go to any workshop and they tend to overtighten your wheel nut. Why? If not, it will "fall off". They obviously don't care to use a torque wrench or dunno what it is. So the tighter, the better. My ws use wrench to tighten. For pass months, wheel did not fly off even drove 140km/h to Malacca also steady. Over tighten is not advisable. again. Most ws + drivers (too) are kiasu and kiasi.
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