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Post by petertham on Mar 9, 2012 10:07:26 GMT 8
Hi Can I check with you how much is a QF and Full Data Log. And what are the advantages of both and if you compare which is a better choice?
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Post by picanyeo on Apr 9, 2012 9:15:06 GMT 8
I'm not expert in this but I can share with you what I know.
QF is sort of enhanced ECU tuning for stock or lightly mod engines. Lightly mod means CAI, aftermarket panel filter, etc. I think it's important for the airbox to be present in the setup. whether you use paper or SS filter doesn't matter. Price is lower than FDL and transferring takes less than 3 mins.
On the other hand, FDL is customized for each setup. Meaning you can't really find identical FDL elsewhere in the market unless it has a similar setup as yours. This is catered for people with customized setup such as changing of extractors, exhaust systems or filter setup. It takes much longer time compared to QF because Joey got to tune on the spot and get things right. Got to cater as least half a day for this. But do standby the whole day because sometimes it may take more time. Best to do it during weekdays when Joey is less busy.
Air flow characteristics changes when intake and exhaust is modified greatly from the original settings. While QF may still work on the modified system, but it cannot extract the full benefits.
Hope this helps.
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Post by F0rteBlack on Apr 20, 2012 15:30:55 GMT 8
How does joey tune? Connect to where? Thanks..
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Post by Harmony Motor on Apr 21, 2012 0:04:22 GMT 8
How does joey tune? Connect to where? Thanks.. For most Korean models, I am able to flash via OBD2 Socket.
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Post by cyberalex on May 4, 2012 21:31:52 GMT 8
How long is the process to do FDL? I'm currently on decat & straight thru exhaust with 2.1 inch mid pipe. In the event that I swap back my stock exhaust for inspection, will there be any side effects?
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Post by guardian on May 8, 2012 20:40:23 GMT 8
How long is the process to do FDL? I'm currently on decat & straight thru exhaust with 2.1 inch mid pipe. In the event that I swap back my stock exhaust for inspection, will there be any side effects? boss. what is the answer to this question ?
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Post by Harmony Motor on May 9, 2012 13:09:06 GMT 8
How long is the process to do FDL? I'm currently on decat & straight thru exhaust with 2.1 inch mid pipe. In the event that I swap back my stock exhaust for inspection, will there be any side effects? Sorry for the late reply. FDL will take a full day. 10 am - 5 pm. If you swap hardware, the tuning will still be there except that it may not be 100% suitable. However, after your inspection, if you swap back your usual parts, everything will be back in order.
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Post by guardian on May 11, 2012 13:55:53 GMT 8
How long is the process to do FDL? I'm currently on decat & straight thru exhaust with 2.1 inch mid pipe. In the event that I swap back my stock exhaust for inspection, will there be any side effects? Sorry for the late reply. FDL will take a full day. 10 am - 5 pm. If you swap hardware, the tuning will still be there except that it may not be 100% suitable. However, after your inspection, if you swap back your usual parts, everything will be back in order. Joey.. does this theory applies to QF or QFR ?
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Post by Harmony Motor on May 12, 2012 13:22:35 GMT 8
Sorry for the late reply. FDL will take a full day. 10 am - 5 pm. If you swap hardware, the tuning will still be there except that it may not be 100% suitable. However, after your inspection, if you swap back your usual parts, everything will be back in order. Joey.. does this theory applies to QF or QFR ? Yes, it's the same. However, the data worked in a cluster (range cell) and not an absolute figure. Therefore, slight variation of the hardware may be able to handle by the ECU.
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Post by picanyeo on May 17, 2012 8:36:17 GMT 8
This is the information for Harmony's ECU tuning services. Refer to the QuickFlash package. There is a dyno chart done on some vehicles if you are interested. Harmony has been tuning korean vehicles for many years. (Hi Joey, hope you don't mind I extract the ECU tuning advertisement and post it here)
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Post by Harmony Motor on May 17, 2012 16:18:26 GMT 8
Thanks Yeo. I appreciate.
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Post by guardian on May 18, 2012 16:52:21 GMT 8
thanks for the reply, joey...
In conclusion - QF suits more on stock set up.. with exhaust mods or other gadgets, consider FDL..
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Post by Harmony Motor on May 18, 2012 20:16:14 GMT 8
thanks for the reply, joey... In conclusion - QF suits more on stock set up.. with exhaust mods or other gadgets, consider FDL.. The OB markers will be open pod intake + extractor.
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Post by shy3r on Aug 23, 2012 13:38:44 GMT 8
FDL doesnt void warranty.. am i right?
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Post by dllatimer on Aug 23, 2012 13:56:45 GMT 8
Like ask so many times already le, this QF and FDL is no cutting of wiring like piggyback.
Just tune thru OBD port i dun see why can void warranty.
C & C not so free to meddle with those parameters la.....
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Post by picanyeo on Aug 23, 2012 17:09:02 GMT 8
FDL doesnt void warranty.. am i right? Nope.. It's stealth and this is one major advantage of OEP. Until now, nobody knows my car is tuned. They can only see the intake system in my engine bay.
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Post by seek0001 on Sept 5, 2012 23:51:00 GMT 8
The only mod i have is to change the extractor to SS one, do i need to do the QF or FDL?
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Post by dllatimer on Sept 6, 2012 8:49:45 GMT 8
I think it is the muffler not extractor...
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Post by picanyeo on Sept 6, 2012 8:59:15 GMT 8
Wah dllatimer, your eyes are so sharp. I didn't even realize that that could be a muffler.
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Post by seek0001 on Sept 6, 2012 10:03:04 GMT 8
haha sorry, i meant muffler...damn too tired yesterday.
So in this case, does it matter if i do FDL or QF?
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Post by picanyeo on Sept 6, 2012 12:29:41 GMT 8
thanks for the reply, joey... In conclusion - QF suits more on stock set up.. with exhaust mods or other gadgets, consider FDL.. The OB markers will be open pod intake + extractor. What does the term 'OB markers' refer to? Does it mean anything more than this requires FDL?
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Post by Harmony Motor on Sept 6, 2012 18:46:08 GMT 8
The OB markers will be open pod intake + extractor. What does the term 'OB markers' refer to? Does it mean anything more than this requires FDL? Yes
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Post by picanyeo on Sept 6, 2012 21:18:47 GMT 8
haha sorry, i meant muffler...damn too tired yesterday. So in this case, does it matter if i do FDL or QF? So for your case, QF will do as it have not exceed the threshold yet. You can call Joey to confirm it.
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Post by picanyeo on Oct 20, 2012 23:44:57 GMT 8
Completed by FDL on wednesday. Like to give a short feedback of the tune. I was previously on RISK + QF w/ stock muffler. Things were going pretty well until I changed the muffler. I started to experience poor throttle response and my low end was affected. Driving in the morning heavy traffic was frustrating, especially when you need the immediate response from the throttle to overtake. For me, it's noise first, then power delivery. The responsiveness and power delivery previously experienced with the stock muffler was gone. This is a short summary of my opinions about the FDL vs QF: QF: - Poor throttle response - Lag in power delivery (noise first, then power) - Suffered in low end performance (Vehicle need to be above 3rpm to regain it's responsiveness - Driving in morning traffic is simply frustrating FDL: - Sharp and precise throttle response (Similar to QF) - No lag in power delivery - Regain responsiveness in low end. - Pickup from stationary certainly faster compared to before tune. - Power delivery was linear. - Additional torque extracted from mid-high rpm range *There is always a concept that the muffler increases your mid-high end performance but sacrificing your low end in the process. This is what I came to discover after reading numerous forums with regards to mufflers. The FDL really helps to extract the most out of the muffler. I really can feel the effects of the mid-high end from the muffler installation. Power delivery is linear and throttle respond is much sharper. This makes the vehicle more fun to drive. My conclusion is the vehicle is certainly faster after the tune. Thanks Joey for all his efforts for tuning my vehicle. (I do not represent anyone for my opinions. It is purely a feedback and have no advertisement intent. If you have questions, pls kindly direct them to Joey. He will be the right person to provide you with answers.
In additional, every vehicle is different. What I experience may not be the same for you when you change your muffler. for reading)
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