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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 19, 2012 14:16:40 GMT 8
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Post by roger06 on Feb 20, 2012 7:51:18 GMT 8
Won't it be abit noisy?
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Post by corgel on Feb 20, 2012 10:22:08 GMT 8
There doesn't seem to have enough volume of the pipe, low end will suffer quite a bit...
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 20, 2012 14:00:07 GMT 8
Well depends on what kind of noise your talking about. It has the usual intake "Throaty" noise but nothing is rattling. It's a lot quieter with the tube on then off. There doesn't seem to have enough volume of the pipe, low end will suffer quite a bit... Which pipe would you be talking about. The pipe connected to the throttle body or the pipe that is ran down into the bumper? They are both 3" in diameter so I don't see why it wouldn't have enough volume. Unless you know something I don't, which could definitely be true
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Post by corgel on Feb 21, 2012 10:12:41 GMT 8
diameter is diameter, volume is diameter x length... our stock airbox has a very big volume which acts as a reservoir for the engine during low revs... the engine does not have much sucking power during low rev so it is tedious for it to suck through the filter...
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Post by guardian on Feb 21, 2012 21:36:37 GMT 8
Air that is suck via the scoop is not significant. Stock air box has a big volume but most is hot air.
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 22, 2012 5:32:20 GMT 8
I see, well you learn something new at every forum you visit. Just out of curiosity, does having a smaller volume hinder HP in anyway? My goal was to get cold air, but being me I wanted to do it myself. So the pipe is short because of the battery location. It hinders intake placement and length.
BTW, I'm still puzzled on where most of these members are located.
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Post by guardian on Feb 22, 2012 7:32:09 GMT 8
A good position for cold car is at the fog light area. Minimize the bends for a better air flow
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 22, 2012 10:21:53 GMT 8
I understand that, that's why this setup has a tube that I have running straight down behind the foglight. Se technically I only have one slight bend. The tubing itself is quite smooth on the inside also. The only issue I believe I have is the volume of the intake pipe coming off the throttle body? Attachments:
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Post by guardian on Feb 22, 2012 12:05:58 GMT 8
It would be better to extend more towards the firewall near to the ECU.(a -30deg angle is good enough) Remember that more air doesnt mean good, a proportional mix of a/f is needed. To maximize it, a tuning is needed.
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 22, 2012 13:32:51 GMT 8
I was thinking about running it down towards the tranny case like a Mid Ram Intake. Yeah a tuning is going to be done once I have more then one bolt on lol. Thanks for the opinions though
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Post by guardian on Feb 22, 2012 14:15:32 GMT 8
I suggest look more at the low end as mid gain can easily achieve with a simple CAI.
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Post by nite2nite on Feb 22, 2012 22:14:11 GMT 8
Yrs is a 2L or 1.6L 2011 model?
Can see u are on e throttle.
Low end suffer is not as significant as compare to 2010 1.6
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 23, 2012 14:20:58 GMT 8
I have the 2.4L. What do you mean by E Throttle?
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Post by ilovekoup on Feb 23, 2012 17:23:05 GMT 8
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 23, 2012 18:43:17 GMT 8
2011 sorry lol
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Post by corgel on Feb 27, 2012 9:43:47 GMT 8
I have the 2.4L. What do you mean by E Throttle? Electronic Throttle... the throttle position is determined electronically rather than through cable...
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Post by demiblade on Feb 27, 2012 11:30:11 GMT 8
Looks good. You are making me wonder if I should go for a similar setup to get colder air from near fog lamps. I first did a DIY job of replacing the stock air filter with an Apexi open pod. But there was no heatshield, and the stock airflow mechanism had too many bends for my liking. My 1.6L 2010 koup did make a lot of bark, but little bite. Felt like there is a rubber band lag. At WOT, it was like trying to breathe through a wide long pipe that is too near to a wall (the stock air box surrounds the Apexi open pod that was dropped in). There air did not come in fast enough for a responsive launch. Now, this is my current setup. Just had to done at Jeep Chee Singapore after buying their LTA approved exhaust. Costs about $250 for the short ram air intake with HKS megaflow. They did a good job with cutting the metal pipe for a custom fit, and the hole for MAF sensor pipe. They also removed the original air box completely, and remounted my ECU with proper brackets for $20. There is no more low end suffering of torque, or rubber band effect from restricted airflow. It seems power distribution is now evenly spread with good response from low to high end.
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Post by gravesidetears on Feb 27, 2012 12:46:54 GMT 8
I like that a lot! You should talk to them about actually selling them as kits! Over here the only ECU mounts that we can buy are $50.
Unfortunately when I went to clean up some shotty cutting of the pipe, I discovered little rocks and pebbles in the filters housing. Not a really big deal, it's doing it's job lol. I replace the pipe that I cut properly and shorter so the system does rub on anything. When I have time to take my bumper off I will reinstall the pipe down near the fog light.
Seeing your pipe like that makes me wonder if you could hook up a filter/tube system, like mine, to the stock ram air scoop.
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Post by corgel on Feb 28, 2012 10:56:27 GMT 8
Looks good. You are making me wonder if I should go for a similar setup to get colder air from near fog lamps. I first did a DIY job of replacing the stock air filter with an Apexi open pod. But there was no heatshield, and the stock airflow mechanism had too many bends for my liking. My 1.6L 2010 koup did make a lot of bark, but little bite. Felt like there is a rubber band lag. At WOT, it was like trying to breathe through a wide long pipe that is too near to a wall (the stock air box surrounds the Apexi open pod that was dropped in). There air did not come in fast enough for a responsive launch. Now, this is my current setup. Just had to done at Jeep Chee Singapore after buying their LTA approved exhaust. Costs about $250 for the short ram air intake with HKS megaflow. They did a good job with cutting the metal pipe for a custom fit, and the hole for MAF sensor pipe. They also removed the original air box completely, and remounted my ECU with proper brackets for $20. There is no more low end suffering of torque, or rubber band effect from restricted airflow. It seems power distribution is now evenly spread with good response from low to high end. Maybe we can meet up some time to examine this setup...
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Post by demiblade on Feb 28, 2012 14:49:40 GMT 8
Maybe we can meet up some time to examine this setup... Sure bro. I will be glad to drop by for the next mass meetup. When is it?
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