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Post by hankookmag on Nov 21, 2006 7:36:37 GMT 8
Hi! Not sure if you have seen the comparison table of the fuel consumption of the different brand of cars on the Singapore website: www.mycarforum.com/reviews/reviews.pl?action=fc_tableThe fuel consumption for Magentis stated in the table is 10km/litre with 40% Highway and 60% Road. If what it is stated on the table is true, then the Magentis compares quite well with the rest of the cars. But sometimes, I think we have to take this kind of table with a pinch of salt esp since I am looking at some Magentis owners here as having quite different FC for their cars. I guess the driving habits do affect the FC quite a bit. I was just wondering if we could have a list of table of FC for all Magentis drivers in this forum showing: ??km/litre ??%highway ??% Road. We could perhaps have a better idea of the average FC of the Magentis. Recently revisited the above link, found that the some of the car models variation in FC seems to be quite wide. Of course driving style & road conditions affect the FC. I'm wondering if people are using the same method. Reason: Normally I'll leave the pumping to the pump attendent who set the pump to auto which stops when its "full" with a click. He will add a bit more manually to round off to the nearest dollar. In my case, when "empty" warning light is on, I'll usually pump within the next 10km after that. The volume that is filled is between 58litres & 59litres. Since the car's spec indicates fuel tank to be 65 litres, I assumed that the balance I have is about 5 to 6 litres. Adopting the method as suggested by Hattee recently, I decided to see how much fuel I can add after first click. I was able to pump almost 67 litres into the tank before I see the fuel at the tip of pump hole. With that, I clocked 630km. Anyone used the same method? My point is that the accuracy of the FC being calculated will differ quite substantially. I guess the correct method to determine FC is to fill up to the brim, drive for 100km or 200km, then fill to the brim again and take the difference in fuel put in to calculate the FC. Any comments?
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 28, 2006 18:35:22 GMT 8
Bro, Any particular reason for using Mobil or is this the best brand for the Mag from your experience? Getting good discount from Caltex, unfortunately caltex doesn't have 92. But mileage is better, may offset the discount. By way are we still on this Saturday? Bro, you are right. Not to worry, I use Mobil 92 since I got the car. In fact, tried Mobil 97 Super up north and cruising seems noisier. Maybe hard 4000-5000 acceleration, 98 could possibly be smoother with the benefit of slightly advanced ignition. And generally, the smaller engines will require the higher octane. All things equal, they are usually more prone to detonation with their smaller volume and surface area for effective heat dissipation. Since we're on the subject of FC, I was wondering if there is any difference between the brand of petrol chosen. Personally, I've tried using SPC 98EON and Caltex 95&98EON (used currently) I didn't find any difference. Perhaps my ride is not properly run-in yet (mileage: just above 6000). My experience with my previous ride (1990 - Accord) seem to vary. Tried all brands 92, 95 & 98EON and Shell Premium (best power). Didn't experience much difference in power between 98 & 95. Mileage didn't vary much either with the exception of SPC which was about 10% worse. However. I was pleasantly surprised that Mobil 92 performed just as well other brands 95 & 98 EON in terms of power & mileage. Unfortunately, discovered this only in the last few months of using the car. Does anyone have similar experience with the various brands and how it affects the FC? Technically, the Mag can run on 92EON. Has anyone tried?
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 25, 2006 0:42:29 GMT 8
Since we're on the subject of FC, I was wondering if there is any difference between the brand of petrol chosen.
Personally, I've tried using SPC 98EON and Caltex 95&98EON (used currently) I didn't find any difference. Perhaps my ride is not properly run-in yet (mileage: just above 6000).
My experience with my previous ride (1990 - Accord) seem to vary. Tried all brands 92, 95 & 98EON and Shell Premium (best power). Didn't experience much difference in power between 98 & 95. Mileage didn't vary much either with the exception of SPC which was about 10% worse.
However. I was pleasantly surprised that Mobil 92 performed just as well other brands 95 & 98 EON in terms of power & mileage. Unfortunately, discovered this only in the last few months of using the car.
Does anyone have similar experience with the various brands and how it affects the FC?
Technically, the Mag can run on 92EON. Has anyone tried?
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 17, 2006 1:03:13 GMT 8
Well maybe not for long. Heard from SM recently, there are less than 10 in stock (don't know if its true). Or until they bring in the new model. Bro, its not "one of the most affordable 2L"... it is THE most affordable 2L... thats for sure ... no other 2L car sells for 53K... closest i think is Carens.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 17, 2006 0:48:28 GMT 8
That's a good idea. Perhaps we can get more Mag owners to come in & join this forum. Maybe even get more converts to get the Mag. Hi! Not sure if you have seen the comparison table of the fuel consumption of the different brand of cars on the Singapore website: www.mycarforum.com/reviews/reviews.pl?action=fc_tableThe fuel consumption for Magentis stated in the table is 10km/litre with 40% Highway and 60% Road. If what it is stated on the table is true, then the Magentis compares quite well with the rest of the cars. But sometimes, I think we have to take this kind of table with a pinch of salt esp since I am looking at some Magentis owners here as having quite different FC for their cars. I guess the driving habits do affect the FC quite a bit. I was just wondering if we could have a list of table of FC for all Magentis drivers in this forum showing: ??km/litre ??%highway ??% Road. We could perhaps have a better idea of the average FC of the Magentis.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 16, 2006 0:46:43 GMT 8
Definitely would like to try out your ride. With a 11km/l Lane 1 driven car, must definitely try. When's a good time for you? Maybe can PM me. Have tried my bro-in-law's 2004 model Sonata, which is the same platform, engine & gear box as the Mag, the ride was great. Suspension system not sure though.... One thing's sure, the rubber it is on 205/65R15. That's 2 size larger than Mag. Heavier? This is my first new car, my 4th 2litre car. Have owned Stellar, Laser 1.6 (Mazda chassis), MB W123, Accord & Mazda MX6. Best ride: MX6 (predecessor to Mazda 6) on 17" rubbers - that's during my single's days. COE too high to renew & Parf also high then. Now family man must drive family car. Felt that the Mag is a bit weaker than the Laser, I mean suspension wise. That's reason for thinking I got a lemon. When I first saw & sat in the Mag (rather Optima) back in 2001 in Korea, fell in love with it. So when Mag was offered at $55K, straight away jump at it, even though the new model was already launched elsewhere. Perhaps, my expectation was higher, there again..... After trying your ride, & also need your expert opinion after trying my ride, maybe then....... can decide if I got a lemon from C&C. It seems everyone in this forum felt that the Mag's quiet & comfortable. One thing is that it is one of the most affordable 2L car packed with 140bhp & when one can get a FC like yours, Hatte, sure beat the Camry any day. Why pay 20K premium? Save the money to do mod. So Hatte, how much does it cost to mod? My first priority is FC. Nowadays must drive family here & there, also want to be environment friendly for our kids future right! Bros you are certainly not getting a lemon. 15-years old accord ... hmmm. Maybe should share share our drive - when? Is this your first brand new car if I may ask? Guess you are not expecting a Lexus from Magentis. For $53k now, you might want to tell us which other cars offer its stability and comfort and the potential performance which you aint know yet. My 11km/L is 99% Lane 1 driving.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 15, 2006 4:43:56 GMT 8
I believe you're right about engine, it's quite quiet, similar to my 15yr old Accord. Pickup no match though Mag has higher bhp, perhaps all new cars now fitted with cat converter, air flow bit slower. What type of tweaks have you done? May want to try out since it does not compromise on your FC. Being one of the 'old bird' here, can you please comment on your ride comfort & vibrations? Sure would like to try out your ride. If you are complaining about tyre noise, maybe your engine is quite quiet. My previous 323 was so noisy and I never had problem with tyre noise. Perhaps, Singapore road is far from ideal. Sometimes console myself - probably our blind folks will have the most clue for his whereabout whenever he travels on Singapore roads. Hmmm ... a few tweaks might help if you think our pickup is that bad. Only remember, first 5-10 mins got to be patient when a/con zaps alot of power while engine takes alittle longer to warm up. Well I thought I got a bad lemon from C&C. All the marketing hype (check out their site on Magentis: www.kia.com.sg/cars/main_MGT.asp)I was a bit disappointed with the suspension & pickup. My previous 15 yr old car Accord 2.0 had better ride and pickup, unfortunately the COE expired. When I brought this up to C&C service centre, they told me you cannot compare. I suppose you can't compare a car with 200k mileage with a 3k mileage. I hope you're right about the breaking in. After 5k, though the pickup is much better now. One way to have slightly better pickup is to fuel up to a quarter or half tank. Let me know if insulating the tyre wells reduces the noise. Might consider doing that too. Anyone going to the SGK club meet up on 17/2? Sure would like to meet up with Mag drivers. Share experience.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 13, 2006 22:48:34 GMT 8
Well I thought I got a bad lemon from C&C. All the marketing hype (check out their site on Magentis: www.kia.com.sg/cars/main_MGT.asp)I was a bit disappointed with the suspension & pickup. My previous 15 yr old car Accord 2.0 had better ride and pickup, unfortunately the COE expired. When I brought this up to C&C service centre, they told me you cannot compare. I suppose you can't compare a car with 200k mileage with a 3k mileage. I hope you're right about the breaking in. After 5k, though the pickup is much better now. One way to have slightly better pickup is to fuel up to a quarter or half tank. Let me know if insulating the tyre wells reduces the noise. Might consider doing that too. Anyone going to the SGK club meet up on 17/2? Sure would like to meet up with Mag drivers. Share experience.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 12, 2006 0:48:54 GMT 8
Wow that's very good mileage. Hattee yours also very good. Am just getting only abt 9.2/l. Mileage 5k+ Got my car last Nov. Hope I can get better after 7k. Hattee, your suggestion for a Optima/Mag meet up is a good idea. Can exchange pointers. Just off topic, I know you guys mentioned that car's quiet & comfortable. I get quite a bit of road noise and feels quite bumpy over uneven road. Don't know if reason is my rubber is 205/50R16. By the way, does anyone know the OE tyre size for this car? In UK/US it seems it is 205/60R15. Sure would like to discuss with you guys on mod especially on fuel saving.
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Post by hankookmag on Dec 21, 2006 8:42:12 GMT 8
Yes, PM to me & we can arrange meeting place. Do note that it expires end of 2006.
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Post by hankookmag on Nov 29, 2006 1:30:50 GMT 8
Hi Mag Bros,
Anyone using Caltex Petrol.
Recently got my hands on additional 10 sets of 4 X $3 off voucher for every $40 filled, I'm giving them away. (too many for me to use)
Validity: Expires in 31 Dec 2006.
If you're using Silver (95) and you've got HSBC credit card (additional 5%) + site discount (11%) and after deducting the $3 off voucher, you'll be only paying about $1.19 per litre.
PM me if you want.
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