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Post by amaninus on Sept 28, 2010 0:43:54 GMT 8
Did a check prior to my desaru trip and found out that the spare coolant tank is almost empty. Then open radiator cap and found out coolant level in radiator is low. Fell below the fins inside the radiator. Topped up with approx 700ml water. Before coming back to desaru, topped up another 500ml water.
I din check the coolant level since I change coolant about 1.5 mths ago.
Any seniors here encounter this coolant top up before? Can advice what is the problem? TIA.
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Post by DGray on Sept 28, 2010 1:36:19 GMT 8
Should b leaking somewhere bro. Better get it checked by a mech soon.
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Post by amaninus on Sept 28, 2010 7:42:19 GMT 8
Bro sani, I checked the floor, there is no oil leak or water leak stain. But u r right. I should go and hv it checked.
I notice the eng valve cover has a layer of melted rubber gasket ard it. I observe oil stain around it. I am worried that the coolant go into engine. Heard that if coolant go into eng, should hv white smoke right? My V1 just pass the JIC vehicle inspection, so suppose no white smoke..
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Post by tommythk on Sept 28, 2010 9:11:20 GMT 8
Understand from a mech that coolant spare tank will not be utilise unless leakage happen to your radiator or coolant piping system. better get a thorough checkfrom mech bro.
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Post by yanuk on Sept 29, 2010 9:54:05 GMT 8
the white smoke from leaking water into the engine is not very obvious, it's not like those 2 stroke bike fumigating the roads.
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Post by DGray on Oct 1, 2010 8:09:25 GMT 8
Bro sani, I checked the floor, there is no oil leak or water leak stain. But u r right. I should go and hv it checked. I notice the eng valve cover has a layer of melted rubber gasket ard it. I observe oil stain around it. I am worried that the coolant go into engine. Heard that if coolant go into eng, should hv white smoke right? My V1 just pass the JIC vehicle inspection, so suppose no white smoke.. If coolant go engine, the smoke can barely c lei. The best look at ur dipstick. If engine oil milky colour, go rectify asap.
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Post by amaninus on Oct 2, 2010 18:45:54 GMT 8
Eng oil looks ok and not milky. Went to world auto to hv it inspected this morning. No leak observed. The mechanic topped up the spare tank with water and advised me to monitor for 1 week. You guys are right about the leak. I did a check again in the afternoon. The dried coolant stains from the top plastic part of the radiator makes me uncomfortable, so I start to clean with tissue. I tink I saw crack lines on the top plastic part of the radiator. Now will monitor and see if there is stain again. Meanwhile will search for past thread regarding radiator replacement. Thanks for the advice rendered..
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Post by themostextreme on Oct 2, 2010 21:17:21 GMT 8
Eng oil looks ok and not milky. Went to world auto to hv it inspected this morning. No leak observed. The mechanic topped up the spare tank with water and advised me to monitor for 1 week. You guys are right about the leak. I did a check again in the afternoon. The dried coolant stains from the top plastic part of the radiator makes me uncomfortable, so I start to clean with tissue. I tink I saw crack lines on the top plastic part of the radiator. Now will monitor and see if there is stain again. Meanwhile will search for past thread regarding radiator replacement. Thanks for the advice rendered.. bro, d radiator has a certain life-span, especially the top plastic cover. FYI, on normal driving (say less than 3000rpm) the leak is very minimal. But if u go beyond 3000rpm, u might notice the water will "spray-off" from the plastic cover. that's what happen to me 1 mnth ago. luckily i discovered early.
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Post by amaninus on Oct 3, 2010 9:30:29 GMT 8
Really?? I tink U may be right, bro. I seldom rev beyond 3500rpm. But I did it twice to almost redline. Once is to clear carbon at 1,2,3rd gear holding at 4k rpm for a while then rev to 6100rpm. The second was to overtake when driving in malaysia. Bro, where u got it fixed? U replace the whole radiator or just the top part? How much u pay for parts and labour? Eng oil looks ok and not milky. Went to world auto to hv it inspected this morning. No leak observed. The mechanic topped up the spare tank with water and advised me to monitor for 1 week. You guys are right about the leak. I did a check again in the afternoon. The dried coolant stains from the top plastic part of the radiator makes me uncomfortable, so I start to clean with tissue. I tink I saw crack lines on the top plastic part of the radiator. Now will monitor and see if there is stain again. Meanwhile will search for past thread regarding radiator replacement. Thanks for the advice rendered.. bro, d radiator has a certain life-span, especially the top plastic cover. FYI, on normal driving (say less than 3000rpm) the leak is very minimal. But if u go beyond 3000rpm, u might notice the water will "spray-off" from the plastic cover. that's what happen to me 1 mnth ago. luckily i discovered early.
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Post by themostextreme on Oct 4, 2010 9:09:00 GMT 8
FYI, when the temp is hot, u don't need to go beyond 3000rpm to see the leak. that's the reason why, u have "white stain" all over the place - a sign to tell u that d radiator is leaking. 4 me, i changed the whole piece. just buy from Ming Ghee and bring to JB workshop (the workshop which is frequent by uncle LMF and Abang Saniboy). U might just wan to change the top part just like some bro here is doing. That's your choice and preference. I think labour is about RM20-RM30 (not sure lah bcos i oso did other things as well). good luck bro......
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Post by DGray on Oct 6, 2010 18:52:04 GMT 8
Where sia the workshop u went to? Me and LMF diff place lei....
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Post by amaninus on Oct 6, 2010 21:17:24 GMT 8
went for a quotation. the lady say adviceable to change thermostat if i changing radiator. after change radiator, dun use coolant, use water instead bcos coolant will bite the radiator. hearing my cerato is a opc, she advised me to top up water before driving instead of changing. now with the crack, radiator has a relief point, so its a blessing in disguise.
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Post by Fιcκs on Oct 6, 2010 22:48:09 GMT 8
Water also not any type of water. Distilled water works best.
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Post by airconvent on Oct 8, 2010 12:19:35 GMT 8
RAM your engine hard in neutral mode. Can you see smoke coming from the exhaust? If you see it and your car about 6-7 years old and heavily used, likely the engine gaskets has worn down and coolant is seeping into the engine block. I think its called "blowpass". If this is the case, your engine may need top or major overhaul. But as the others said, it can also be due to a leakage in your radiator. If you see water dripping other than from the aircon area, this may indicate a crack somewhere.
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Post by amaninus on Dec 23, 2010 19:53:39 GMT 8
Yup pal, there is a crack on the top of the radiator (the plastic part). I just spent $470 to replace new radiator, 3 rubber hoses, thermostat and coolant. The car drives great for a few days. Problem nw is, when I start the car, the idling is at 2500 rpm. Any advice from anyone? RAM your engine hard in neutral mode. Can you see smoke coming from the exhaust? If you see it and your car about 6-7 years old and heavily used, likely the engine gaskets has worn down and coolant is seeping into the engine block. I think its called "blowpass". If this is the case, your engine may need top or major overhaul. But as the others said, it can also be due to a leakage in your radiator. If you see water dripping other than from the aircon area, this may indicate a crack somewhere.
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Post by airconvent on Dec 23, 2010 21:59:12 GMT 8
Normal if you cold start to idle faster. Its due to th automatic choke. It should slowly come down after 2-3 min. In the old days, I had to pull this lever on my 1980 Starlet to do this and then remember to push it back in after a while. Nowadays its all automatic!
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Post by amaninus on Dec 24, 2010 0:13:43 GMT 8
Bro, its not normal for my case cos I dun hv this high idling before (I m refering to 2500rpm). Even when the temp gauge is almost to the normal marking, its still idling at 2500rpm. I am searching the net to see if the auto choke and the thermostat that I just replaced is related or not. It work really fine the first few days after the replacing the radiator. Just 2 days after the last trip, this high idling rpm occur. Normal if you cold start to idle faster. Its due to th automatic choke. It should slowly come down after 2-3 min. In the old days, I had to pull this lever on my 1980 Starlet to do this and then remember to push it back in after a while. Nowadays its all automatic!
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Post by airconvent on Dec 24, 2010 14:54:16 GMT 8
Then you should have your FICD checked. May be tuned too high. Also previously for my old Spectra, a defective O2 sensor cable caused my RPM to shoot up randomly and eventually causing the engine to stall. It was fixed onl after the replaced the cable months later. Took very long because the fault was intermittent.
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Post by amaninus on Dec 24, 2010 17:47:43 GMT 8
Thks for sharing your experience. I think mine shld be mechanical fault. Just like your cable thing or PCV or etc. It happened suddenly and I drive with idling at 2500rpm. It was a short 10min drive with heavy traffic. The symtom persist throughout the trip. Just 200m before the carpark, the idling rpm went back to normal (800rpm) been driving the whole day. No problem yet. That's y I suspect its mechanical fault (as in something stucked). Then you should have your FICD checked. May be tuned too high. Also previously for my old Spectra, a defective O2 sensor cable caused my RPM to shoot up randomly and eventually causing the engine to stall. It was fixed onl after the replaced the cable months later. Took very long because the fault was intermittent.
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Post by markuz on Jan 1, 2011 11:19:03 GMT 8
hi bro/sis.. happy new year! where can i buy new raditor for my 05 Cerato beside ming ghee? Heard that there are 2 type of radiator available...auto and manual? What are the different between them and price different? And also which workshop in spore is recommended for installations? thanks!
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Post by DGray on Jan 1, 2011 17:51:39 GMT 8
Other than ming ghee, can try order ourselves la.
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Post by LMF on Jan 2, 2011 7:28:31 GMT 8
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