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Post by ACE on Nov 19, 2009 4:01:30 GMT 8
hi bros... any1 knw wat r product code of Denso Iridium Tough dats suitable for our v1 ride? coz i gettin conflictin result whn search e website... europe denso recommend VK16 for e G4ED engine but sg denso recommend VK20 for e G4ED engine... so which izit? also wat bout NGK Iridium IX? any1 usin it n knw e product code?
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Post by ACE on Nov 19, 2009 4:13:52 GMT 8
o n jus another query... wat plug r most of our v1 bros here on? any feedback for Denso Iridium Tough/ NGK Iridium IX/Brisk LGS or others?
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Post by subzero on Nov 19, 2009 13:14:48 GMT 8
Used to be on IK20 Denso.. But got one bro reccomended Volker plugs..
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Post by DGray on Nov 20, 2009 22:58:27 GMT 8
Me using Volker. So far 30k km haven't change yet. Hope reali can last like wat it says.
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Post by trex101 on Nov 26, 2009 15:37:45 GMT 8
hi bros... any1 knw wat r product code of Denso Iridium Tough dats suitable for our v1 ride? coz i gettin conflictin result whn search e website... europe denso recommend VK16 for e G4ED engine but sg denso recommend VK20 for e G4ED engine... so which izit? also wat bout NGK Iridium IX? any1 usin it n knw e product code? Denso iridium IK20 = NGK BKR6EIX-11 Denso iridium IK16 = NGK BKR5EIX-11
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Post by Mat Tidak on Nov 26, 2009 15:52:47 GMT 8
how much is volker?
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Post by DGray on Nov 27, 2009 11:18:42 GMT 8
Volker quite expensive. But cannot remember the price la.
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Post by LMF on Nov 28, 2009 1:48:49 GMT 8
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Post by ACE on Nov 29, 2009 2:00:06 GMT 8
wat bout e rest of bros here? any1 usin e new Denso Iridium Tough, NGK Iridium Max or Brisk LGS? feedbck would b most appreciatd...
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Post by Mat Tidak on Dec 7, 2009 20:25:37 GMT 8
Hohohoho Bros/siss,
me goin in tmr to get my baby service in jb but have not purchase the spark plug. previously mine was irridium and was change by a mech here... but i drive for more than 50k already.... so need to change...
Can any bro here tell me where can i get a set? i know is around 60dlrs...
please help....
can i know
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Post by LMF on Dec 7, 2009 20:33:32 GMT 8
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Post by Mat Tidak on Dec 7, 2009 20:40:54 GMT 8
mustafa?? really??? will go check tmr
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Post by LMF on Dec 7, 2009 20:51:03 GMT 8
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Post by ACE on Dec 9, 2009 19:35:28 GMT 8
hmm i buyin e NGK iridium + platinum type fr a close fren of mine liaoz...
tink jap plugs mor suitd 4 our ride... coz was readin othr countries forum... ppl seem 2 get problm wif angmoh plugs... but no complains bout jap plugs...
umm $60 for standard iridium? dats exp... my NGK Iridium Max (Platinum+Iridium)... not e norm short-life Iridium Power... only cost me $70+... its e equivelent to "Denso Iridium Tough"
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Post by revv on Dec 10, 2009 11:36:42 GMT 8
hmm i buyin e NGK iridium + platinum type fr a close fren of mine liaoz... tink jap plugs mor suitd 4 our ride... coz was readin othr countries forum... ppl seem 2 get problm wif angmoh plugs... but no complains bout jap plugs... umm $60 for standard iridium? dats exp... my NGK Iridium Max (Platinum+Iridium)... not e norm short-life Iridium Power... only cost me $70+... its e equivelent to "Denso Iridium Tough" Hi Bro, Where do you get it from and what's the part no. for this? Thanks in advance.
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Post by DGray on Dec 10, 2009 18:32:12 GMT 8
hmm i buyin e NGK iridium + platinum type fr a close fren of mine liaoz... tink jap plugs mor suitd 4 our ride... coz was readin othr countries forum... ppl seem 2 get problm wif angmoh plugs... but no complains bout jap plugs... umm $60 for standard iridium? dats exp... my NGK Iridium Max (Platinum+Iridium)... not e norm short-life Iridium Power... only cost me $70+... its e equivelent to "Denso Iridium Tough" How long can ur plugs last? Time to share where u bought them....
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Post by Mat Tidak on Dec 11, 2009 8:40:16 GMT 8
hmm i buyin e NGK iridium + platinum type fr a close fren of mine liaoz... tink jap plugs mor suitd 4 our ride... coz was readin othr countries forum... ppl seem 2 get problm wif angmoh plugs... but no complains bout jap plugs... umm $60 for standard iridium? dats exp... my NGK Iridium Max (Platinum+Iridium)... not e norm short-life Iridium Power... only cost me $70+... its e equivelent to "Denso Iridium Tough" How long can ur plugs last? Time to share where u bought them....
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Post by ACE on Dec 17, 2009 2:14:17 GMT 8
jus collectd my plugs last thurs... gona fix in tis wkend... last wk 2 bz 2 fit... plug no is BKR5EIXP...
bought fr my gd fren who is e local distributor of NGK... he norm dnt sell direct 2 end consumers... he sell by bulk 2 wrkshp n accessories shop like mcwell venture...
NGK offical claim is dat tis "P" type plug last a minimum of 80K... i cant verify dat as i havn use b4... n also tis is quite a new model... so most ppl only tried e norm iridium b4...
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Post by ACE on Dec 17, 2009 2:17:00 GMT 8
if got bro interestd i can try secure 4 u a set... can PM me... but no gurantees... coz not sure if my fren wana sell 2 end consumer direct... final price is $78 aftr GST...
e norm iridium type is evn cheaper accordin 2 my fren... almst $20-$30 cheaper... dpendin on plug no...
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Post by dester on Dec 29, 2009 10:22:41 GMT 8
Hi bros, so for my V1 should I use IK16 or IK20? Last time use IK20 now using IK16... feels the same leh... different mechanic recommend differently...
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Post by LMF on Dec 29, 2009 10:59:23 GMT 8
suppose to be Ik16...
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Post by subzero on Dec 29, 2009 11:08:11 GMT 8
I use IK20 leh..
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Post by LMF on Dec 29, 2009 11:11:08 GMT 8
i also leh but Denso webby states IK16 but no diff la, maybe only start up/warm up time requires longer? Forgot what Gary told me liao...
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Post by nisse on Mar 1, 2010 2:00:36 GMT 8
i also leh but Denso webby states IK16 but no diff la, maybe only start up/warm up time requires longer? Forgot what Gary told me liao... Think IK16 is the correct plug for V1. Was fitted with IK20 plugs by techician during 20k servicing. When I replaced the plug myself at 50k, I found the IK20 threads. to be almost covered with black deposits. I read from some websites that the black deposits should only be 2-3 threads from the tip for a suitable plug. Replaced with IK16 plugs and when I check recently on its condition, there are only black deposits 2-3 threads near the tip. This confirms its IK16 is the plug for V1. Also, denso korea website also recommends IK16 for cerato V1.
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Post by themostextreme on Mar 1, 2010 9:00:00 GMT 8
Hello bro, IK16 is known as "warm" plug whereas IK20 is classified under "colder" plug. How do you know whether is your combustion is completed? Remove the plug and see. The gnd electrode should be "chalky white". As a rule-of-thumb, the DENSO recommended IK16 as an equivalent is correct based on the assumption that there is no mod done - meaning engine is stock condition. depending on the magnitude of your mod-up, most ride should falls within IK16 on local road - meaning 5500rpm on every gears. Unless you headed north where u need to use 2nd/3rd/4th gear very often and rev up to 6000rpm, then go for IK20.
when u use IK20 and noticed that it covered with black deposits - meaning that the plug is too cold - meaning incomplete combustion. WHY? becos you didn't rev high enough. The combustion temp is less than 500 deg C. For IK20 to work properly, your combustion temp should be at least 600 deg C and above.
anyway that's what I've experimented and observed and thus share.
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