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Post by haroldz123 on Dec 26, 2008 2:59:37 GMT 8
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Post by subzero on Dec 26, 2008 11:09:16 GMT 8
Yeah, I read this before.. And it's interesting alright...
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Post by haroldz123 on Dec 26, 2008 15:14:48 GMT 8
so true or not? i install a blue pivot raizin....
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Post by kentang on Dec 26, 2008 22:21:06 GMT 8
This guy funny loh. Put one big and BOLD disclaimer "I got nothing to sell on this page " at the start of the page. Then say untill all the commercial products like shit. His reinvented circuit works must better and cheaper. Finally put two links at the end of the page, selling his own "Battery Revitalizer" and his soon recreated "Ignition-VSD". Ya true, nothing to sell on this page but something to sell from the links. ;D
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Post by hantu on Dec 27, 2008 16:37:42 GMT 8
Bro Kentang,no flamming intended, but I met this guy personnelly and we chat for quite a while.Infact he make me the battery re-vitaliser and I paid only for the parts which he bought from Sim Lin that is $10 dollars.I find him a nice guy and he even offered to help me with any electronics project I might have.I have nothing to do with his bussiness,all I can say is that he is a friend to me and have help me to asssemble quite a few DIY projects and we share info about our common interest--car.Maybe one day we can meet him together and you decide.Again bro no flamming intended and I apologised if I caused any disconfort to you or any of our fellow bro here.
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Post by kentang on Dec 27, 2008 21:03:24 GMT 8
Bro Kentang,no flamming intended, but I met this guy personnelly and we chat for quite a while.Infact he make me the battery re-vitaliser and I paid only for the parts which he bought from Sim Lin that is $10 dollars.I find him a nice guy and he even offered to help me with any electronics project I might have.I have nothing to do with his bussiness,all I can say is that he is a friend to me and have help me to asssemble quite a few DIY projects and we share info about our common interest--car.Maybe one day we can meet him together and you decide.Again bro no flamming intended and I apologised if I caused any disconfort to you or any of our fellow bro here. No worries, I not flamming on anything just find it a little funny from the Disclaimer and then some selling link. Maybe we could meet up one day and have some discussion on all these projects. I used to design power electronics circuits and prototype them during my uni days. So I actually quite intrested all these projects. As now I am working in a unrelated field (refering to electronics) there's not much time to study all these in detail.
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Post by Mervyn on Dec 28, 2008 10:58:28 GMT 8
wow maybe i can join learn from you all haha ...
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Post by RainbowRain on Dec 28, 2008 11:13:41 GMT 8
What I feel more interesting and catch my attending is the picture saying "interesting house @ Blk 52 , Bedok South Ave 3, #16-xxxx with interesting group of people in Singapore.........." But I cannot find the link to the story...... anyone know what is the story or the link to it??
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Post by hantu on Dec 29, 2008 17:24:32 GMT 8
Wah bro kentang,you are in electronic field huh?Sound good leh,maybe can learn a few tricks from you later.I'm only in mechanical trade but interest and curiousity led me to pick-up a few trick.Sure,when I got my ride, I would like to meet you and the rest of the guys and share some info.As for bro Rainbow, I think it is more of a "ghost buster" thingy.I guess...not into this kind of eriee thingy leh...takut...
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Post by subzero on Dec 29, 2008 20:43:23 GMT 8
Wah bro kentang,you are in electronic field huh?Sound good leh,maybe can learn a few tricks from you later.I'm only in mechanical trade but interest and curiousity led me to pick-up a few trick.Sure,when I got my ride, I would like to meet you and the rest of the guys and share some info.As for bro Rainbow, I think it is more of a "ghost buster" thingy.I guess...not into this kind of eriee thingy leh...takut... Alamak bro, u hantu also scared ah?
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Post by yanuk on Dec 29, 2008 20:56:40 GMT 8
typical "voltage stablisers" don't really hold much power. I've come across another product that sells themselves as battery supplement pack instead of "voltage stablisers" the mechanic showed me the difference. he took a "blue coloured" VS (no names mentioned) and connect to the car battery. Take out measure the voltage, drop to almost 0V very fast. He then took the battery supplement pack and did the same procedure again, after 10mins it still holds like 10Volts of power. Now that's something different I bought it on the spot
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Post by hantu on Dec 30, 2008 8:52:35 GMT 8
Bro Bonzz,I'm a living hantu lah,that is why I'm scared of dead hantu.As for the VS, I think bro kentang is more familiar with electronic gadget as he is in this field.I believe that the one you mentioned is a fast discharge VS which have their own function as oppose to the "battery supplement" which I believe also function at their own right.It really depend on what you need,either to smoothen the voltage with less ripple or act as a voltage storage.
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Post by kentang on Dec 30, 2008 15:36:53 GMT 8
In the electric point of view, if you want to stabilize the voltage, you need something that can hold charge (i.e capacitor). A larger capacitor can hold a lager amount of charges, but it also takes longer amount of time for it to charge up and similarly the discharge time will be longer.
If you want the car to produce a constant voltage, all you need is enough charge to maintain the voltage, there's no need for the car to have a big capacitor that can store charge for 10mins.
The main aim is to stabilize the output voltage of the battery, not to create another battery rite?
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Post by hantu on Dec 31, 2008 13:25:04 GMT 8
bro kentang,I've seen a 0.8farad capacitor on a battery.I've tested before and after,throttle respond is good but did not notice any other gain
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Post by yanuk on Jan 1, 2009 10:11:32 GMT 8
In the electric point of view, if you want to stabilize the voltage, you need something that can hold charge (i.e capacitor). A larger capacitor can hold a lager amount of charges, but it also takes longer amount of time for it to charge up and similarly the discharge time will be longer. If you want the car to produce a constant voltage, all you need is enough charge to maintain the voltage, there's no need for the car to have a big capacitor that can store charge for 10mins. The main aim is to stabilize the output voltage of the battery, not to create another battery rite? not true boss, the minimum charge time is determined by a component's ESI. The lower, the faster it can charge. He refuse to be labelled in the same league of VS. I did chat up on the batt supplement pack (BSP) boss and it's suppose to have a ESI much lower than common capacitors and definitely better than the car battery. It is called a battery supplement is because it way surpasses the realm of voltage stabilising. It not only can hold and discharge energy so fast that performs the voltage stabilising effect, it hold so much energy that it becomes like a 2nd battery. My mechanic suggests even to downsize my battery to half it's original capacity to save weight as the bsp will act as a "2nd battery" let the smaller battery perform like a bigger one. Weight savings = fuel savings I will consider doing that once my battery die on me
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Post by kentang on Jan 2, 2009 14:13:13 GMT 8
In the electric point of view, if you want to stabilize the voltage, you need something that can hold charge (i.e capacitor). A larger capacitor can hold a lager amount of charges, but it also takes longer amount of time for it to charge up and similarly the discharge time will be longer. If you want the car to produce a constant voltage, all you need is enough charge to maintain the voltage, there's no need for the car to have a big capacitor that can store charge for 10mins. The main aim is to stabilize the output voltage of the battery, not to create another battery rite? not true boss, the minimum charge time is determined by a component's ESI. The lower, the faster it can charge. He refuse to be labelled in the same league of VS. I did chat up on the batt supplement pack (BSP) boss and it's suppose to have a ESI much lower than common capacitors and definitely better than the car battery. It is called a battery supplement is because it way surpasses the realm of voltage stabilising. It not only can hold and discharge energy so fast that performs the voltage stabilising effect, it hold so much energy that it becomes like a 2nd battery. My mechanic suggests even to downsize my battery to half it's original capacity to save weight as the bsp will act as a "2nd battery" let the smaller battery perform like a bigger one. Weight savings = fuel savings I will consider doing that once my battery die on me Hi Bro, throughout my years of experience in electronics, I have not heard of ESI, maybe you could enlighten me with the full name. I'm not sure about this ESI thingy but capacitors do have ESR(Equivalent Series Resistor value) and ESL (Equivalent series inductance). Generally they do affect the the charging behavior of capacitor, I would say the effect it's neglectable (Unless you are doing some R&D project, or high frequences that consider it's impedance, resonance,....). So how long it charge really depend on how much charge it can hold. This charging time may be as little as a few mircoscond to a few minutes.
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