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Post by hattee on Jan 14, 2006 12:06:26 GMT 8
Wow. That really impressive without any add-ons. If I may ask, do you use your gauge scale as guide which can be quite course sometimes. Others are taking the FUEL WARNING is quite common way of checking FC, dividing km with fuel previous added. I used it many years ago and seem accurate up to 10km-20km. Personally close watch of FC can be a good gauge about the health of my car.
Not sure if this is a better way of tracking FC here: (a) always re-fuel near or after FUEL WARNING (least error from large volume) (b) visit the same kiosk at almost the same time in the morning (c) go for the same pump and position the refilling point to the same depth (same spring position on our fuel inlet) (d) divide odo distance by the amount of fuel for the auto-stop to cut in. (e) zero odometer before driving off. (f) repeat (a) to (e) - NOT DIFFICULT FOR ONE-OFF CALCULATION (g) for those meticulous, record down and even obtain an accurate monthly average (or as long as you keep the records):
DATE...ODO....FUEL...FC 07/10 675km 59.2L 11.4km/L 14/10 606km 54.6L 11.1km/L 21/10 634km 58.7L 10.8km/L 28/10 656km 60.2 10.9km/L =================== (OCT) 2571km 232.7L 11km/L monthly average
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Post by blastwave on Jan 15, 2006 12:37:27 GMT 8
I'm just using the fuel gauge. Another question: when the warning comes up, does that mean it has reached the 60L and going into the reserve 5L, or it is about to reach 60L?
I think the 10Km+/L i got is due to half aircon and light footed driving. Still monitoring and enjoying it!!
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Post by leewei on Jan 17, 2006 20:43:09 GMT 8
I one pump 55L till full onli managed to hit 450km then fuel light lights up. I havent went for the servicing but currently is doing 6000km mileage. Pathetic fuel.
How could u guys hit over600km with full tank ?
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Post by blastwave on Jan 17, 2006 21:36:17 GMT 8
No worries. I used to get 7.5km/l when started until about 7000Km, then suddenly...as if like got magic...the FC kept improving!...u onli got 6000Km, wait a little more...
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Post by hattee on Jan 17, 2006 21:37:34 GMT 8
True. Hard to believe my full tank can give me 700km without Fuel Warning.
If you interested we can take a 220km round the island 100-110kph cruise from full tank. Not sure you mind the bill if I need less than 20L to top back.
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Post by leewei on Jan 19, 2006 22:43:51 GMT 8
crapz... i juz pump 55l of petrol today... gosh my mileage is 6700km... wonder this time how many km can i hit. The FC is killing me.
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Post by hattee on Jan 22, 2006 18:38:52 GMT 8
Bros, so long we didn't have a meet-up for Optima/Magnetis owners. Not sure if possible on (Tues) 31 Jan the 3rd day of CNY after all the visits.
We can share about our experiences and respect all ideas.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 12, 2006 0:48:54 GMT 8
Wow that's very good mileage. Hattee yours also very good. Am just getting only abt 9.2/l. Mileage 5k+ Got my car last Nov. Hope I can get better after 7k. Hattee, your suggestion for a Optima/Mag meet up is a good idea. Can exchange pointers. Just off topic, I know you guys mentioned that car's quiet & comfortable. I get quite a bit of road noise and feels quite bumpy over uneven road. Don't know if reason is my rubber is 205/50R16. By the way, does anyone know the OE tyre size for this car? In UK/US it seems it is 205/60R15. Sure would like to discuss with you guys on mod especially on fuel saving.
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Post by blastwave on Feb 13, 2006 19:44:44 GMT 8
Hi, the noise coming from the tyres can be irritating. Im going to spend a bit of money to insulate the tyre wells. I think it costs about $120 for all 4. About the bumpiness, yes, I do feel the same way too. Have read in some reports that magentis suspension is tuned to that way. Im not sure the logic for this. It could be to counteract wallowing. Or maybe it too needs breaking in period.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 13, 2006 22:48:34 GMT 8
Well I thought I got a bad lemon from C&C. All the marketing hype (check out their site on Magentis: www.kia.com.sg/cars/main_MGT.asp)I was a bit disappointed with the suspension & pickup. My previous 15 yr old car Accord 2.0 had better ride and pickup, unfortunately the COE expired. When I brought this up to C&C service centre, they told me you cannot compare. I suppose you can't compare a car with 200k mileage with a 3k mileage. I hope you're right about the breaking in. After 5k, though the pickup is much better now. One way to have slightly better pickup is to fuel up to a quarter or half tank. Let me know if insulating the tyre wells reduces the noise. Might consider doing that too. Anyone going to the SGK club meet up on 17/2? Sure would like to meet up with Mag drivers. Share experience.
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Post by hattee on Feb 14, 2006 20:42:10 GMT 8
If you are complaining about tyre noise, maybe your engine is quite quiet. My previous 323 was so noisy and I never had problem with tyre noise. Perhaps, Singapore road is far from ideal. Sometimes console myself - probably our blind folks will have the most clue for his whereabout whenever he travels on Singapore roads. Hmmm ... a few tweaks might help if you think our pickup is that bad. Only remember, first 5-10 mins got to be patient when a/con zaps alot of power while engine takes alittle longer to warm up. Well I thought I got a bad lemon from C&C. All the marketing hype (check out their site on Magentis: www.kia.com.sg/cars/main_MGT.asp)I was a bit disappointed with the suspension & pickup. My previous 15 yr old car Accord 2.0 had better ride and pickup, unfortunately the COE expired. When I brought this up to C&C service centre, they told me you cannot compare. I suppose you can't compare a car with 200k mileage with a 3k mileage. I hope you're right about the breaking in. After 5k, though the pickup is much better now. One way to have slightly better pickup is to fuel up to a quarter or half tank. Let me know if insulating the tyre wells reduces the noise. Might consider doing that too. Anyone going to the SGK club meet up on 17/2? Sure would like to meet up with Mag drivers. Share experience.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 15, 2006 4:43:56 GMT 8
I believe you're right about engine, it's quite quiet, similar to my 15yr old Accord. Pickup no match though Mag has higher bhp, perhaps all new cars now fitted with cat converter, air flow bit slower. What type of tweaks have you done? May want to try out since it does not compromise on your FC. Being one of the 'old bird' here, can you please comment on your ride comfort & vibrations? Sure would like to try out your ride. If you are complaining about tyre noise, maybe your engine is quite quiet. My previous 323 was so noisy and I never had problem with tyre noise. Perhaps, Singapore road is far from ideal. Sometimes console myself - probably our blind folks will have the most clue for his whereabout whenever he travels on Singapore roads. Hmmm ... a few tweaks might help if you think our pickup is that bad. Only remember, first 5-10 mins got to be patient when a/con zaps alot of power while engine takes alittle longer to warm up. Well I thought I got a bad lemon from C&C. All the marketing hype (check out their site on Magentis: www.kia.com.sg/cars/main_MGT.asp)I was a bit disappointed with the suspension & pickup. My previous 15 yr old car Accord 2.0 had better ride and pickup, unfortunately the COE expired. When I brought this up to C&C service centre, they told me you cannot compare. I suppose you can't compare a car with 200k mileage with a 3k mileage. I hope you're right about the breaking in. After 5k, though the pickup is much better now. One way to have slightly better pickup is to fuel up to a quarter or half tank. Let me know if insulating the tyre wells reduces the noise. Might consider doing that too. Anyone going to the SGK club meet up on 17/2? Sure would like to meet up with Mag drivers. Share experience.
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Post by hattee on Feb 15, 2006 19:55:34 GMT 8
Bros you are certainly not getting a lemon. 15-years old accord ... hmmm. Maybe should share share our drive - when?
Is this your first brand new car if I may ask? Guess you are not expecting a Lexus from Magentis. For $53k now, you might want to tell us which other cars offer its stability and comfort and the potential performance which you aint know yet.
My 11km/L is 99% Lane 1 driving.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 16, 2006 0:46:43 GMT 8
Definitely would like to try out your ride. With a 11km/l Lane 1 driven car, must definitely try. When's a good time for you? Maybe can PM me. Have tried my bro-in-law's 2004 model Sonata, which is the same platform, engine & gear box as the Mag, the ride was great. Suspension system not sure though.... One thing's sure, the rubber it is on 205/65R15. That's 2 size larger than Mag. Heavier? This is my first new car, my 4th 2litre car. Have owned Stellar, Laser 1.6 (Mazda chassis), MB W123, Accord & Mazda MX6. Best ride: MX6 (predecessor to Mazda 6) on 17" rubbers - that's during my single's days. COE too high to renew & Parf also high then. Now family man must drive family car. Felt that the Mag is a bit weaker than the Laser, I mean suspension wise. That's reason for thinking I got a lemon. When I first saw & sat in the Mag (rather Optima) back in 2001 in Korea, fell in love with it. So when Mag was offered at $55K, straight away jump at it, even though the new model was already launched elsewhere. Perhaps, my expectation was higher, there again..... After trying your ride, & also need your expert opinion after trying my ride, maybe then....... can decide if I got a lemon from C&C. It seems everyone in this forum felt that the Mag's quiet & comfortable. One thing is that it is one of the most affordable 2L car packed with 140bhp & when one can get a FC like yours, Hatte, sure beat the Camry any day. Why pay 20K premium? Save the money to do mod. So Hatte, how much does it cost to mod? My first priority is FC. Nowadays must drive family here & there, also want to be environment friendly for our kids future right! Bros you are certainly not getting a lemon. 15-years old accord ... hmmm. Maybe should share share our drive - when? Is this your first brand new car if I may ask? Guess you are not expecting a Lexus from Magentis. For $53k now, you might want to tell us which other cars offer its stability and comfort and the potential performance which you aint know yet. My 11km/L is 99% Lane 1 driving.
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Post by vinsonian2004 on Feb 16, 2006 9:59:49 GMT 8
Hi! Not sure if you have seen the comparison table of the fuel consumption of the different brand of cars on the Singapore website: www.mycarforum.com/reviews/reviews.pl?action=fc_tableThe fuel consumption for Magentis stated in the table is 10km/litre with 40% Highway and 60% Road. If what it is stated on the table is true, then the Magentis compares quite well with the rest of the cars. But sometimes, I think we have to take this kind of table with a pinch of salt esp since I am looking at some Magentis owners here as having quite different FC for their cars. I guess the driving habits do affect the FC quite a bit. I was just wondering if we could have a list of table of FC for all Magentis drivers in this forum showing: ??km/litre ??%highway ??% Road. We could perhaps have a better idea of the average FC of the Magentis.
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Post by hattee on Feb 16, 2006 19:27:30 GMT 8
I seems to think Korean ratings are generally honest. I do not wish to single out other made but there are out there some which grossly over-rated their specs. You are welcome to take a 220km ride with me in Singapore 80-110kph highway and requiring less than 20L is possible for a 2-ton Korean car weighing significantly heavier than many other 2L in our context. I am not light-footed though my engine doesn't protest many a time. Hi! Not sure if you have seen the comparison table of the fuel consumption of the different brand of cars on the Singapore website: www.mycarforum.com/reviews/reviews.pl?action=fc_tableThe fuel consumption for Magentis stated in the table is 10km/litre with 40% Highway and 60% Road. If what it is stated on the table is true, then the Magentis compares quite well with the rest of the cars. But sometimes, I think we have to take this kind of table with a pinch of salt esp since I am looking at some Magentis owners here as having quite different FC for their cars. I guess the driving habits do affect the FC quite a bit. I was just wondering if we could have a list of table of FC for all Magentis drivers in this forum showing: ??km/litre ??%highway ??% Road. We could perhaps have a better idea of the average FC of the Magentis.
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Post by hattee on Feb 16, 2006 19:47:41 GMT 8
I was an ex-Optima owner, too. Guess that's how my consideration for many 1.6 out there fetching the same price. But definitely can't drive it like any sub 2-ton. After unlearning the old driving habit, it's really fun and relaxing now. No more furious, nervous, cold fist, and not necessary slower. Just pm you my contact. Definitely would like to try out your ride. With a 11km/l Lane 1 driven car, must definitely try. When's a good time for you? Maybe can PM me. Have tried my bro-in-law's 2004 model Sonata, which is the same platform, engine & gear box as the Mag, the ride was great. Suspension system not sure though.... One thing's sure, the rubber it is on 205/65R15. That's 2 size larger than Mag. Heavier? This is my first new car, my 4th 2litre car. Have owned Stellar, Laser 1.6 (Mazda chassis), MB W123, Accord & Mazda MX6. Best ride: MX6 (predecessor to Mazda 6) on 17" rubbers - that's during my single's days. COE too high to renew & Parf also high then. Now family man must drive family car. Felt that the Mag is a bit weaker than the Laser, I mean suspension wise. That's reason for thinking I got a lemon. When I first saw & sat in the Mag (rather Optima) back in 2001 in Korea, fell in love with it. So when Mag was offered at $55K, straight away jump at it, even though the new model was already launched elsewhere. Perhaps, my expectation was higher, there again..... After trying your ride, & also need your expert opinion after trying my ride, maybe then....... can decide if I got a lemon from C&C. It seems everyone in this forum felt that the Mag's quiet & comfortable. One thing is that it is one of the most affordable 2L car packed with 140bhp & when one can get a FC like yours, Hatte, sure beat the Camry any day. Why pay 20K premium? Save the money to do mod. So Hatte, how much does it cost to mod? My first priority is FC. Nowadays must drive family here & there, also want to be environment friendly for our kids future right! Bros you are certainly not getting a lemon. 15-years old accord ... hmmm. Maybe should share share our drive - when? Is this your first brand new car if I may ask? Guess you are not expecting a Lexus from Magentis. For $53k now, you might want to tell us which other cars offer its stability and comfort and the potential performance which you aint know yet. My 11km/L is 99% Lane 1 driving.
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Post by blastwave on Feb 17, 2006 0:16:50 GMT 8
Bro, its not "one of the most affordable 2L"... it is THE most affordable 2L... thats for sure ... no other 2L car sells for 53K... closest i think is Carens.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 17, 2006 0:48:28 GMT 8
That's a good idea. Perhaps we can get more Mag owners to come in & join this forum. Maybe even get more converts to get the Mag. Hi! Not sure if you have seen the comparison table of the fuel consumption of the different brand of cars on the Singapore website: www.mycarforum.com/reviews/reviews.pl?action=fc_tableThe fuel consumption for Magentis stated in the table is 10km/litre with 40% Highway and 60% Road. If what it is stated on the table is true, then the Magentis compares quite well with the rest of the cars. But sometimes, I think we have to take this kind of table with a pinch of salt esp since I am looking at some Magentis owners here as having quite different FC for their cars. I guess the driving habits do affect the FC quite a bit. I was just wondering if we could have a list of table of FC for all Magentis drivers in this forum showing: ??km/litre ??%highway ??% Road. We could perhaps have a better idea of the average FC of the Magentis.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 17, 2006 1:03:13 GMT 8
Well maybe not for long. Heard from SM recently, there are less than 10 in stock (don't know if its true). Or until they bring in the new model. Bro, its not "one of the most affordable 2L"... it is THE most affordable 2L... thats for sure ... no other 2L car sells for 53K... closest i think is Carens.
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 25, 2006 0:42:29 GMT 8
Since we're on the subject of FC, I was wondering if there is any difference between the brand of petrol chosen.
Personally, I've tried using SPC 98EON and Caltex 95&98EON (used currently) I didn't find any difference. Perhaps my ride is not properly run-in yet (mileage: just above 6000).
My experience with my previous ride (1990 - Accord) seem to vary. Tried all brands 92, 95 & 98EON and Shell Premium (best power). Didn't experience much difference in power between 98 & 95. Mileage didn't vary much either with the exception of SPC which was about 10% worse.
However. I was pleasantly surprised that Mobil 92 performed just as well other brands 95 & 98 EON in terms of power & mileage. Unfortunately, discovered this only in the last few months of using the car.
Does anyone have similar experience with the various brands and how it affects the FC?
Technically, the Mag can run on 92EON. Has anyone tried?
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Post by hattee on Feb 25, 2006 17:29:32 GMT 8
Bro, you are right. Not to worry, I use Mobil 92 since I got the car. In fact, tried Mobil 97 Super up north and cruising seems noisier. Maybe hard 4000-5000 acceleration, 98 could possibly be smoother with the benefit of slightly advanced ignition. And generally, the smaller engines will require the higher octane. All things equal, they are usually more prone to detonation with their smaller volume and surface area for effective heat dissipation. Since we're on the subject of FC, I was wondering if there is any difference between the brand of petrol chosen. Personally, I've tried using SPC 98EON and Caltex 95&98EON (used currently) I didn't find any difference. Perhaps my ride is not properly run-in yet (mileage: just above 6000). My experience with my previous ride (1990 - Accord) seem to vary. Tried all brands 92, 95 & 98EON and Shell Premium (best power). Didn't experience much difference in power between 98 & 95. Mileage didn't vary much either with the exception of SPC which was about 10% worse. However. I was pleasantly surprised that Mobil 92 performed just as well other brands 95 & 98 EON in terms of power & mileage. Unfortunately, discovered this only in the last few months of using the car. Does anyone have similar experience with the various brands and how it affects the FC? Technically, the Mag can run on 92EON. Has anyone tried?
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Post by hankookmag on Feb 28, 2006 18:35:22 GMT 8
Bro, Any particular reason for using Mobil or is this the best brand for the Mag from your experience? Getting good discount from Caltex, unfortunately caltex doesn't have 92. But mileage is better, may offset the discount. By way are we still on this Saturday? Bro, you are right. Not to worry, I use Mobil 92 since I got the car. In fact, tried Mobil 97 Super up north and cruising seems noisier. Maybe hard 4000-5000 acceleration, 98 could possibly be smoother with the benefit of slightly advanced ignition. And generally, the smaller engines will require the higher octane. All things equal, they are usually more prone to detonation with their smaller volume and surface area for effective heat dissipation. Since we're on the subject of FC, I was wondering if there is any difference between the brand of petrol chosen. Personally, I've tried using SPC 98EON and Caltex 95&98EON (used currently) I didn't find any difference. Perhaps my ride is not properly run-in yet (mileage: just above 6000). My experience with my previous ride (1990 - Accord) seem to vary. Tried all brands 92, 95 & 98EON and Shell Premium (best power). Didn't experience much difference in power between 98 & 95. Mileage didn't vary much either with the exception of SPC which was about 10% worse. However. I was pleasantly surprised that Mobil 92 performed just as well other brands 95 & 98 EON in terms of power & mileage. Unfortunately, discovered this only in the last few months of using the car. Does anyone have similar experience with the various brands and how it affects the FC? Technically, the Mag can run on 92EON. Has anyone tried?
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Post by ka on Apr 11, 2006 0:36:17 GMT 8
hi Blastwave, Have you done the tyre well insulation yet? How did it go? Hi, the noise coming from the tyres can be irritating. Im going to spend a bit of money to insulate the tyre wells. I think it costs about $120 for all 4. About the bumpiness, yes, I do feel the same way too. Have read in some reports that magentis suspension is tuned to that way. Im not sure the logic for this. It could be to counteract wallowing. Or maybe it too needs breaking in period.
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Post by hattee on Jun 11, 2006 19:59:39 GMT 8
I tried Esso 92 past 1 month. Dunno issit psychological, seems more powerful and FC better than Mobil 92 by 1/4km/L. Dunno izzit because of the Steven Rd kiosk calibration is different from Upp Aljunied Mobil. Now permanent on Esso 92 liao Personally this 2 petrols are safe for us since I used them on Optima for 2 years and now Magentis for 1 year. Mobil 97 from M'sia is noisier in my car. Caltex 95 - notice less power and FC can be 0.5km/L worst off. Shell and SPC, not enough special discount for me.
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