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Post by guardian on Dec 22, 2010 21:24:38 GMT 8
That's depend if manual or auto and other set up done. By the way, what's the advantage over piggyback?
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Post by Harmony Motor on Dec 28, 2010 21:20:44 GMT 8
That's depend if manual or auto and other set up done. By the way, what's the advantage over piggyback? Many advantages. - No wire cutting. - Will not have relearning problem (Adaptive Memory). - Can tune low end. - Power delivery is smooth and uniform. - Warranty intact. - No violation of Insurance and LTA ruling. - Fully revertable without a trace. - All safety feature (ECU Software) still intact. - etc. Thanks
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Post by carbon81 on Dec 28, 2010 22:32:47 GMT 8
Hi All bros, i drive a forte 1.6 n had install a unichip versionQ 3 months back n the power u expect is 10% increase the most. Do u all think its enough for u?
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Post by Harmony Motor on Dec 30, 2010 17:56:58 GMT 8
Hi All bros, i drive a forte 1.6 n had install a unichip versionQ 3 months back n the power u expect is 10% increase the most. Do u all think its enough for u? It is a fantastic result! For Gamma Engine, the factory tune is already quite high and to be able to squeeze out 10% using a PiggyBack is very good. I will be very happy if I am you.
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Post by rvalente on Jan 26, 2011 7:06:01 GMT 8
I Have Unichip into my Pica 1.0 12v... From 67 HP to 75HP and 1 Kgf.m of extra torque , from 96 to 106 NM. F/C raise arund 15% highway drive ( 23km/l ) and 10% city drive. ( 16 km/l ) MT Pica...
Regards!
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Post by enforcer533 on Jan 26, 2011 14:52:39 GMT 8
Hi is it possible to do tuning without any exhaust mods but engine mods is the gain alot ??
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Post by Harmony Motor on Jan 26, 2011 20:45:12 GMT 8
I Have Unichip into my Pica 1.0 12v... From 67 HP to 75HP and 1 Kgf.m of extra torque , from 96 to 106 NM. F/C raise arund 15% highway drive ( 23km/l ) and 10% city drive. ( 16 km/l ) MT Pica... Regards! Fantastic result. But the set back will be the increase in Fuel Consumption. I don't know the climate and Fuel quality in your country and thus is unable to comment too much. But I will be happy for the overall result. Do you experience the original ECU countering the PB by high adaptation on the fuel trims and other such features?
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Post by Harmony Motor on Jan 26, 2011 20:47:34 GMT 8
Hi is it possible to do tuning without any exhaust mods but engine mods is the gain alot ?? Yes, it is possible to gain significantly by only doing legal mods. But then again, my significantly improvement may be your ikan bilis. In mods, there is no fixed rule. Knowledge is the source of power.
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Post by kingjeff on Mar 4, 2011 0:56:50 GMT 8
Hi Joey, any ECU reflash for Carens yet?
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Post by Harmony Motor on Mar 7, 2011 22:09:17 GMT 8
Hi Joey, any ECU reflash for Carens yet? Yes, I have done Carens.
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Post by kingjeff on Mar 15, 2011 6:49:37 GMT 8
Hi joey what will be the damage?
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Post by Harmony Motor on Mar 20, 2011 22:26:10 GMT 8
The QF Package is $480 nett. Thanks
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Post by rsdevil on Apr 2, 2011 3:31:33 GMT 8
Hi just to check what is qf package? ECU reflash consist of how many package? Pls advice and thks alot.
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Post by Harmony Motor on Apr 2, 2011 12:00:56 GMT 8
Hi just to check what is qf package? ECU reflash consist of how many package? Pls advice and thks alot. Quick Flash and it's equivalent offered by other tuning companies has become the most common package in the market. For Harmony Motor, we derive the QF Maps from our previous locally tuned experience. There is only 1 QF Data File for each ECU version. We designed this Maps specifically for Stock or Lightly Modified Engine. For other Tuning Companies, the practice is to download for foreign tuned data file and flash it into your ECU. The method is similar to QF except that the file is developed by foreigners who may not know our climate and fuel characteristic. Harmony QF is usually around half the price of our customised tuning package: Street Tune Package (from $880). For this package, we will tailor the maps to bring out the potential of all your mods.
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Post by adsladsl on Apr 18, 2011 10:59:42 GMT 8
Bro Joey, under what circumstances will the QF be resetted or lost or the software will be permanently attached to the ECU unless factory reset?
Removal of battery or something similar will affect anything?
pls advise.
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Post by Harmony Motor on Apr 18, 2011 19:01:11 GMT 8
Bro Joey, under what circumstances will the QF be resetted or lost or the software will be permanently attached to the ECU unless factory reset? Removal of battery or something similar will affect anything? pls advise. The memory is like a thumb drive. Will not go off or change with or without power source. The only way to change it is to reflash it using my equipment. So far, only me and Agent can do it. Agent will only do it if there is a ECU recall.
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Post by vic on May 15, 2011 13:58:41 GMT 8
Joey, do you run on a dyno to see the improvement of the gains? I believe most of the drivers here are interested to see what are the gains on paper rather than just by estimating uncertain figures.
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Post by dllatimer on May 16, 2011 18:14:51 GMT 8
Butt feel lor... i sit before one very powderful V2 FDL tuning.... no dyno but also feel got difference from stock...haha..
You can try flashing then go outside dyno.
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Post by picanyeo on May 16, 2011 22:00:01 GMT 8
Dyno will only measure your WOT. Although it does tells you your max hp and torque, but it does not tell you how you would feel when at partial throttle.
Partial throttle is more impt than wot because we use that in daily driving. A convenient way is to test drive someone else car who has QF and is the same model as yours. If QF is effective, you can feel it even as a passenger.
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Post by dllatimer on May 17, 2011 9:46:36 GMT 8
I agree. Anyway got trial period to try. You will know the before and after effect if you try having it install and dekit it back to stock. If not to your liking then try something else. It also depend on what hardware you got on your ride.
Don't expect a huge difference if going for stock or light mods.
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Post by picanyeo on May 17, 2011 12:00:17 GMT 8
In my opinion, if you got stock airbox with CAI, it is good to complete it with a QF as it's optimized for it. You will feel improved driveability and torque.
Saying in the forum cannot be compared with own feel. Best is to try it out..
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Post by adsladsl on May 17, 2011 15:50:09 GMT 8
QF with light mods is good for city driving with improved driveability and slight increase of torque. BHP wise my butt cant tell.
If wanna play WOT, for sure have to mod exhaust system to get rid of the "restricted" feel.
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Post by vic on May 17, 2011 18:40:48 GMT 8
Dyno will only measure your WOT. Although it does tells you your max hp and torque, but it does not tell you how you would feel when at partial throttle. Partial throttle is more impt than wot because we use that in daily driving. A convenient way is to test drive someone else car who has QF and is the same model as yours. If QF is effective, you can feel it even as a passenger. Picanyeo, a dyno chart is actually a dyno graph that shows at which RPM how much power and torque u will have. So I beg to differ that u said dyno will only show Max hp, torque and not partial throttle. You can run on the dyno before and after the tune to see how much improvement u gained. I think dyno will be important too cause u have to know at which RPM your car has the most power.
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Post by picanyeo on May 17, 2011 22:08:07 GMT 8
Hi Vic,
Yes, I agree with you that a dyno graph is indeed an impt tool as it shows the max hp. It also shows the hp for a given rpm, eg. 3000rpm.
However, a dyno is usually run on full open throttle. Hence, the 3000rpm that you see on the chart is still on WOT, not partial throttle. In addition, there is TCF and gear ratio to consider. These 2 parameters will affect the torque measured and indirectly affect the final hp reading.
I'm sure many will disagree with me, but I feel hp is impt for racing, where you used the high rpm range often. Torque is impt for daily driving, where you utilized the low-mid range rpm. I'm not sure about how QF affects the final hp reading. But I'm sure it improves torque because of the 'pull' you feel after flashing. If torque does not increase, your butt feel will not increase too.
Pls let me know if I'm wrong or I got the wrong concept. In this way, I will learn also. Cheers..
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Post by Harmony Motor on May 24, 2011 18:05:38 GMT 8
You are right, Yeo.
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