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Post by mars on Apr 7, 2008 9:51:24 GMT 8
sad to say no... PI cars are mainly frm japan thus they are known as JDM(Japan Domestic Models).... but some PI do bring in cars like merc,bmw,ect.... but i also dunno why no kia.... if gt think they will be doin very well... haha
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Post by fmx on Apr 7, 2008 10:20:34 GMT 8
from an objective point of view, C&C is a typical commercial org so you cant expect them to close shop for 3-4 months cuz no shipment. They also hope that if they have large enough a vol, they may get priority over the orders placed by AD in other countries. ethically the salesperson shld have been more transparent and consider your frustrations in the shipment delay. rather than avoid your calls, he/she shld provide temp car or discounts like petrol vouchers etc. the brand kia is not the issue here, its the service quality of C&C
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Post by Ben on Apr 7, 2008 10:48:31 GMT 8
from an objective point of view, C&C is a typical commercial org so you cant expect them to close shop for 3-4 months cuz no shipment. They also hope that if they have large enough a vol, they may get priority over the orders placed by AD in other countries. ethically the salesperson shld have been more transparent and consider your frustrations in the shipment delay. rather than avoid your calls, he/she shld provide temp car or discounts like petrol vouchers etc. the brand kia is not the issue here, its the service quality of C&C Yes, agree as Singapore may not be the priority cos we do not have huge demand in quantity for Kia cars here compared to other countries but most european countries already have Kia assembly plant there so not a problem to cater to european demands. That really shows the Kia cars are getting popular and guess what we can do is to feedback such problem to Kia when we have the Customer Feedback form. Guess C&C also facing many pressure from Kia directly as they have to work closely to Kia's policy or they might loose the distributor's right. Frankly speaking, every agent or distributor has its pros and cons and if you can check out with your friend driving other makes, you will know other agent or distributor is worst than C&C.
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Post by taiyang on Apr 7, 2008 12:22:43 GMT 8
from an objective point of view, C&C is a typical commercial org so you cant expect them to close shop for 3-4 months cuz no shipment. They also hope that if they have large enough a vol, they may get priority over the orders placed by AD in other countries. ethically the salesperson shld have been more transparent and consider your frustrations in the shipment delay. rather than avoid your calls, he/she shld provide temp car or discounts like petrol vouchers etc. the brand kia is not the issue here, its the service quality of C&C Yes, agree as Singapore may not be the priority cos we do not have huge demand in quantity for Kia cars here compared to other countries but most european countries already have Kia assembly plant there so not a problem to cater to european demands. That really shows the Kia cars are getting popular and guess what we can do is to feedback such problem to Kia when we have the Customer Feedback form. Guess C&C also facing many pressure from Kia directly as they have to work closely to Kia's policy or they might loose the distributor's right. Frankly speaking, every agent or distributor has its pros and cons and if you can check out with your friend driving other makes, you will know other agent or distributor is worst than C&C. That reminds me of Komoco motors....
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Post by maersk1 on Apr 7, 2008 15:30:36 GMT 8
I Komoco is even worst....
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Post by dhkt72 on Apr 7, 2008 17:29:16 GMT 8
i think our main arugment would be the expected delivery date indicated on the agreement letter. If it is later than what is stated, than we can bang table and demand for compensation. Like for my case, it reflected Apr / May. So got to suck till Jun. Just to share my views.
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Post by Ben on Apr 7, 2008 18:03:36 GMT 8
i think our main arugment would be the expected delivery date indicated on the agreement letter. If it is later than what is stated, than we can bang table and demand for compensation. Like for my case, it reflected Apr / May. So got to suck till Jun. Just to share my views. No worries as it is reflected as Apr / May so by end of May, C&C should deliver your car to you. Do give him a call periodically to check on the status of the shipment.
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Post by shahulhj on Apr 7, 2008 18:28:56 GMT 8
I'm also one of the ppl of stuck with this delay shipment. I starting to 'bang' table already. I ordered on the first week of Feb and delivery date feb/march 08. recently, My SE say maybe in May and would revert back to me for confirmation. Anyway, I called him every other week to check.
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Post by dhkt72 on Apr 7, 2008 20:15:47 GMT 8
i think our main arugment would be the expected delivery date indicated on the agreement letter. If it is later than what is stated, than we can bang table and demand for compensation. Like for my case, it reflected Apr / May. So got to suck till Jun. Just to share my views. No worries as it is reflected as Apr / May so by end of May, C&C should deliver your car to you. Do give him a call periodically to check on the status of the shipment. Thanks bro, sure will. Can't wait to my hand on my White Horse asap.
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Post by K4F on Apr 7, 2008 23:26:04 GMT 8
Call my SE this morning, told me this mid or end Apr shipment confirm coming in,ask him how far along i'm in the waiting list, he said this shipment will be for the Jan , Feb booking. Mar will be May/June. Hope what he said is true! Patiently waiting for my Black Knight to arrive
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Post by muimui on Apr 7, 2008 23:47:41 GMT 8
well, i booked a rio in Dec 07, got coe in jan, contract writes feb to apr 08 for delivery, now still in the queue. se say mid apr got shipment but cannot confirm if got my rio in it. either, i'm being con or the mid apr shipment are all picanto n cerato or my se really hates me ... i dun noe, unless we are the only few unlucky bustard who so "lucky" to gather together to share our grouses, i think if C&C really had a problem with their delivery, their should make a public statement or offer some blanket goodwill compensation for the later than usual delivery (notwithstanding the contract did state delivery in feb to apr 08). if C&C really had a problem with their delivery, i see C&C did nothin n left the SE to fend for themselves. SE oso got mother too. how can create such a situation where every other day customer call SE n *&$#@! then demand for freebie, it's juz not fair. unless of course, C&C did come out with guide for the se to tell the customer but all choose to give different silly excuse or all the SE together, at once screw up the order list . . . but then again, we cannot verify the truth of the matter so can only wait n see how far our patience can stretch n see who is worst off in the end. C&C, the SE or the customer ...
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Post by ceratov2m on Apr 8, 2008 3:34:58 GMT 8
Call my SE this morning, told me this mid or end Apr shipment confirm coming in,ask him how far along i'm in the waiting list, he said this shipment will be for the Jan , Feb booking. Mar will be May/June. Hope what he said is true! Patiently waiting for my Black Knight to arrive Hope wat yr SE says is true!I've booked mine in Jan and secured my coe at the 1st bidding in Jan also!
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Post by Apekvespa on Apr 8, 2008 9:30:58 GMT 8
hmmm last sun , the shipment arrived did not bring any Korea car in,.,. so hopefully, this cumming thurs the next shipment arived have local korea stock especially KIA,, willl try to update,,. once any news,.,,.
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Post by K4F on Apr 8, 2008 11:10:12 GMT 8
hmmm last sun , the shipment arrived did not bring any Korea car in,.,. so hopefully, this cumming thurs the next shipment arived have local korea stock especially KIA,, willl try to update,,. once any news,.,,. Thx bro!
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Post by K4F on Apr 8, 2008 11:14:23 GMT 8
Call my SE this morning, told me this mid or end Apr shipment confirm coming in,ask him how far along i'm in the waiting list, he said this shipment will be for the Jan , Feb booking. Mar will be May/June. Hope what he said is true! Patiently waiting for my Black Knight to arrive Hope wat yr SE says is true!I've booked mine in Jan and secured my coe at the 1st bidding in Jan also! Hope we'll received our ride from this coming shipment
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Post by BluePicanto on Apr 8, 2008 11:27:36 GMT 8
Cerato is rather demanding in other countries rather than sg here or M'sia. So to release the cars to sg shore is all pending on Korea side. As the US dollars is dropping so low now, if the korean wanna earn more they'll rather delay the shipment til the currency goes up. Instead i kinda disappointed with Kia cutting their cost in removing some of the very gd accessories which it used to have it on the earlier batch of V2.
My wife booked her ride on x'mas day last yr n manage to get her ride on mar 08 (slightly ealier as SE promised early apirl). So no complain on tat. As long as ur SE deliver according to purchase order than u still gotta bare with it as u should have prepare for it. Unless it really delay then u can juz called up their manager to make noise as the SE didn't fulfill the promised as per purchase order.
To the bros & sis who's still waiting for ur ride, pls b patient lo. V2 is really a gd ride. Worth waiting for it. Had took a merz cab on sunday to my company D&D. End up my wife complained the merz cab is rather smaller than our V2. So.....
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Post by Ben on Apr 8, 2008 11:31:54 GMT 8
Cerato is rather demanding in other countries rather than sg here or M'sia. So to release the cars to sg shore is all pending on Korea side. As the US dollars is dropping so low now, if the korean wanna earn more they'll rather delay the shipment til the currency goes up. Instead i kinda disappointed with Kia cutting their cost in removing some of the very gd accessories which it used to have it on the earlier batch of V2. My wife booked her ride on x'mas day last yr n manage to get her ride on mar 08 (slightly ealier as SE promised early apirl). So no complain on tat. As long as ur SE deliver according to purchase order than u still gotta bare with it as u should have prepare for it. Unless it really delay then u can juz called up their manager to make noise as the SE didn't fulfill the promised as per purchase order. To the bros & sis who's still waiting for ur ride, pls b patient lo. V2 is really a gd ride. Worth waiting for it. Had took a merz cab on sunday to my company D&D. End up my wife complained the merz cab is rather smaller than our V2. So..... Yes, V2 or Cerato is a good ride as you were to check around with many workshop outside, many have commented or agreed that Cerato is a good car with not much problems. Guess Kia cut cost on minor items which is not critical pertaining to safety but there are many makes which cut cost on major items which will affect the safety of the driver and passenger. This is for sure that Kia has done the right thing.
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Post by BluePicanto on Apr 8, 2008 11:32:30 GMT 8
Juz to add further, pls stop comparing our ride to JDMs as u'r paying more $$ for it as to get higher body values. Our ride is juz a budget ride but worth the $$ coz the quality wont lose to them, most to most i'll said on par with some of the JDM family sedan. So no point keep arguing abt it cost wat u pay is wat u get. Like wat i always used to said "compare an apple to apple but not pineapple".
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Post by Ben on Apr 8, 2008 12:10:23 GMT 8
Juz to add further, pls stop comparing our ride to JDMs as u'r paying more $$ for it as to get higher body values. Our ride is juz a budget ride but worth the $$ coz the quality wont lose to them, most to most i'll said on par with some of the JDM family sedan. So no point keep arguing abt it cost wat u pay is wat u get. Like wat i always used to said "compare an apple to apple but not pineapple". Brother, agree with you too on the above points as others pay more for their JDM ride so they get back more too. Most importantly, their JDM ride may claim that it is from JDM but it may not be true as most of JDM parts are manufactured from other countries including engine parts, it is just that it is assembled in Japan. At least, all our ride's parts including engine parts are only from Korea, no other countries.
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Post by mars on Apr 8, 2008 21:24:18 GMT 8
ya true.... i even find our interior is spacious den some JDM models and nicer den some of it too....
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Post by zerogravt on Apr 8, 2008 21:28:57 GMT 8
sad to say no... PI cars are mainly frm japan thus they are known as JDM(Japan Domestic Models).... but some PI do bring in cars like merc,bmw,ect.... but i also dunno why no kia.... if gt think they will be doin very well... haha Yes, PIs don't import Kias... But they can be the 'middle-man'... That's how I got mine....
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Post by dhkt72 on Apr 8, 2008 22:21:24 GMT 8
At times you get better price for your old car from PI because they dont need to pay the KIA SE commission. A few hundred also better than nothing, can use it to mod our Cerato. By the way, I called my SE today and she told me the shipment in April would be on the 25th. I booked my ride in late Feb and was told that I might have a chnace because my ride is Auto. The waiting time for Manual is longer. Keeping my finger cross and praying hard..
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Post by BluePicanto on Apr 9, 2008 11:02:11 GMT 8
sad to say no... PI cars are mainly frm japan thus they are known as JDM(Japan Domestic Models).... but some PI do bring in cars like merc,bmw,ect.... but i also dunno why no kia.... if gt think they will be doin very well... haha Yes, PIs don't import Kias... But they can be the 'middle-man'... That's how I got mine.... True. Cycle did authorized some PI as their side dealer to sell KIAs. So as Hyundais. They'r faster in delivery coz they so called "buy in" the ride fr cycle 1st then sell to u. N oso they have the prepared open cat coe. Of course it'll b faster.
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Post by ceratov2m on Apr 9, 2008 15:56:56 GMT 8
hmmm last sun , the shipment arrived did not bring any Korea car in,.,. so hopefully, this cumming thurs the next shipment arived have local korea stock especially KIA,, willl try to update,,. once any news,.,,. Appreciate your update!Thks!
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Post by ceratov2m on Apr 9, 2008 15:58:06 GMT 8
At times you get better price for your old car from PI because they dont need to pay the KIA SE commission. A few hundred also better than nothing, can use it to mod our Cerato. By the way, I called my SE today and she told me the shipment in April would be on the 25th. I booked my ride in late Feb and was told that I might have a chnace because my ride is Auto. The waiting time for Manual is longer. Keeping my finger cross and praying hard.. Wow!Any idea if booked manual in Jan got any chance for tis shipment?
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